bigmicah Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Was wondering if anyone one had any knowledge of RHD legacy's. I have one and was wanting to do a tranny swap to a 5-spd. wondering if it is possible with the RHD. Seems to be, but I haven't got started. I know it can be done with regular LHD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastwgn286 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 whoa, that would be sweet! i dont see how it would be different. both shifters are on the floor, in the middle. it should be a clean swap. hydralic or cable clutch though? thats kinda important.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry DeMoss Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Should be relatively the same LHD as is RHD.I think the '91 had cable clutch but I am not positive.I know if you have some questions you could ask the ausie guys.They call those Liberty's IIRC.I would love any rhd suby that would be sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastwgn286 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 well, he'd be starting with a new clutch, so it could go either way. cable would be easier, and you could probably get an aussie shop manual from one of the guys on the forum, but a hydralic clutch would require bending of lines and such, it might get a little messy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundworx Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 I have 2 rhd Legacy's. Both are autos though. I would think the shift pattern would be backwards. If it does use a cable, the cable may need to be modified for the proper length, but I wouldn't think it would very hard to do a swap. You would think most everything would bolt right on. You may have to get some parts from overseas, but I wouldn't think you would need much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 It should work just fine. You can see what I did with my swap, and it'll be very similar if not the same. www.surrealmirage.com/subaru/swap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastwgn286 Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 I have 2 rhd Legacy's. Both are autos though. I would think the shift pattern would be backwards. If it does use a cable, the cable may need to be modified for the proper length, but I wouldn't think it would very hard to do a swap. You would think most everything would bolt right on. You may have to get some parts from overseas, but I wouldn't think you would need much how would the pattern be backwards? its like this whether the car is lhd, rhd, or upside-down drive 1 3 5 |_|_| | | | 2 4 R the only way it would be different is if he put it in the tranny backwards (which i hope you don't do) or doesn't screw the knob on all the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmicah Posted May 27, 2006 Author Share Posted May 27, 2006 from what I have read most RHD vehicles share the same pattern we have hear to cut down on costs of having to produce both ways. So that will mean getting used to 1st being on the outside instead of inside but it will be so cool once its done. Anyway, I am also trying to decide on wether or not to rebuild my ej22 or to try to find an ej22t motor and tranny. any suggestions?. My plan is to make this car the ultimate sleeper. I would love to get to 300hp or over when all said and done. Thanks for all the responses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastwgn286 Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 thats a pretty large number to push from that motor. it would be hard to get over 200 hp on an ej22, and finding an ej22t that doesn't have eleventy million miles to start on would be difficult as well, let alone the 300 hp goal. get 227 hp easy with a rex ej20 swap. do it jdm rex style with a ej205 swap. i dont think the engines you mentioned can produce that much reliably without making you refinance your house.... but it is easy to learn how to shift. just sit shotgun in a five speed in the junkyard and shift with your left hand for a few hours. pedals are all in the same spots, so no confusion there they do have a different shifter. in usdm cars, the shifter is bent ever so slightly to the passenger side of the car so that your knee won't pop it out of first. jdm, ukdm, and audm (?) cars should have the shifter angled to the passenger side as well (to the left, hopefully you're still with me here....), so you'll need a jdm shifter. that should be one of the very few special parts you'll need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmicah Posted May 27, 2006 Author Share Posted May 27, 2006 I have heard that it is almost more desirable to start with a well worn in block since the high heat and and high RPM's can make the metal settle in a new block after getting on it. Tht is just what I have heard. I have also heard it is no problem to get that high of Hp if you are starting with performance parts and adding a turbo. Now I don't intend on spending my life savings on high end parts, but I am trying to get something pretty quick. what's funny is it is a wagon, but I still want to make really fast and pretty much rebuild from the ground up. Thanks for the input though. It is good to get it from many people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Rogers Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 actually , leave it as an auto and get the jap legacy GT twin turbo - thats 280hp out of the box. in your case its a DIRECT swap. that will geiv you everyting needed to do it. (I'm dropping one of these into a GL10 Turbo ) why are you doing a postal vehicle btw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastwgn286 Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 true, all the muscle car shops use "seasoned" engine blocks and they rebuild everything on it (pistons, heads, crankshaft, everything). by using a 200k motor and adding 200 hp, you will also need to rebuild everything on it. i think the ej205 would be perfect, lots of aftermarket parts that are easy to install, and would make your wagon as fast as a stock wrx for less than half the price. and its rhd! :slobber: :slobber: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastwgn286 Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 actually , leave it as an auto and get the jap legacy GT twin turbo - thats 280hp out of the box. in your case its a DIRECT swap. that will geiv you everyting needed to do it. (I'm dropping one of these into a GL10 Turbo ) why are you doing a postal vehicle btw? why auto? and whats the engine serial # on one of those? (EJXXX?) i want one for my outback now! this thread is making me drool.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Rogers Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 why auto? and whats the engine serial # on one of those? (EJXXX?) i want one for my outback now! this thread is making me drool.... EJ20R. available ex japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Rogers Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 to my knowledge they are only auto. that said they are 4.44 final drive with a LSD as std. in a 2300lb (1000kg) vehicle it will post a 12 sec qtr mile. plenty of power for a subie and mor than enough to embarass a V8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundworx Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 how would the pattern be backwards? its like this whether the car is lhd, rhd, or upside-down drive 1 3 5 |_|_| | | | 2 4 R the only way it would be different is if he put it in the tranny backwards (which i hope you don't do) or doesn't screw the knob on all the way I haven't seen many rhd's w/manual tranny's. It would make sense to me that the shift pattern would be flipped. Sorry I don't have your knowledge on this matter.:-\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundworx Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 actually , leave it as an auto and get the jap legacy GT twin turbo - thats 280hp out of the box. in your case its a DIRECT swap. that will geiv you everyting needed to do it. (I'm dropping one of these into a GL10 Turbo ) why are you doing a postal vehicle btw? Where did you get one at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastwgn286 Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 I haven't seen many rhd's w/manual tranny's. It would make sense to me that the shift pattern would be flipped. Sorry I don't have your knowledge on this matter.:-\ eh, its all good. didn't mean to cut anyone up or insult someone, just making bad jokes again. i read a lot of british car magazines and watch top gear a lot, and the shift pattern is the same. the shifter comment i made further up there may or may not be true, as that was a token observation from my car and seeing other shifters oriented closer to the passenger side of the car as well (but it does make sense in my head. others may vary) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastwgn286 Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 i found two of the ej20r's on ebay the other day when he posted the engine #, and googled it. it won't work on lhd subies as the second snail is in the way of the steering column. and thats found in a jap-spec bd-bg or be-bh legacy, not the bf postal wagon he has. wiring looms may be a hassle (not as bad as many tuner magazines make of it, but a little difficult none the less) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmicah Posted May 29, 2006 Author Share Posted May 29, 2006 actually , leave it as an auto and get the jap legacy GT twin turbo - thats 280hp out of the box. in your case its a DIRECT swap. that will geiv you everyting needed to do it. (I'm dropping one of these into a GL10 Turbo ) why are you doing a postal vehicle btw? I used to deliver mail and allways loved the RHD so now I though it would be awesome to make it a racer or at least capable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Rogers Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 i found two of the ej20r's on ebay the other day when he posted the engine #, and googled it. it won't work on lhd subies as the second snail is in the way of the steering column. and thats found in a jap-spec bd-bg or be-bh legacy, not the bf postal wagon he has. wiring looms may be a hassle (not as bad as many tuner magazines make of it, but a little difficult none the less) looms aren't the issue, its literally a straight swap. unbolt the front of your car ,strip it and bolt the GT stuff in. I'm working on one now with the same swap in RHD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastwgn286 Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 can you take pictures and post em somewhere? i'd love to see it going in, and when finally in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Rogers Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 can you take pictures and post em somewhere? i'd love to see it going in, and when finally in! I'll take a few snaps as I do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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