970subaru Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 who has the fastest street EA81? EA82? just the car, any engine though a balls out EA81T or something would be pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 My '85 Brat may qualify for EA81. I have never taken it to the track but seat of the pants testing and many shocked passengers may be testimony enough! Estimated hp by builders, cam grinders and experienced modifiers is about 150bhp at the crank. It has set fastest lap times at ORG rallyx is the past. The XT6 is also a bit modified as well. I doubt it is the fastest though. There have been a few people who played with nitrous setups with these. I also have a 2.5 Brighton that puts out some power that is being compared with the WRX. I have not dyno'd any of these vehicles so all claims are just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75subie Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 there is a guy out in PA with a ea81 hatch dynoed at 150hp.... he wins almost every race he enters i plan on getting the most power out of an ea71 in the near future:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75subie Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 one thing subes could use is different gearing, you might be able to make a sube that is quick for a 1/4 mile track, but top end won`t be much above 110 no matter what you do. at 110 i bet a sube would be doin some big rpms..... my brat at 85 was doing almost 4 grand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 I think I can pull more than that. I have run mine well over 6K many times and it loves it!!Maybe I'll just have to go to the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerFahrer Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 avatar382 (who posts once about every 27 years ) has a pretty sweet XT Turbo. Suffice it to say it can probably run close to 200chp if he turns the boost up. I'd definitely say it's one of the faster EA82s in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoostedBalls Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 My ea82t ran a consistant 14.20 in the 1/4 with all stock engine, turbo, heads and cam. I'll see what she can do with the stage 3 cams, T3 turbo and 2" header, and spider intake and custom water-to-air intercooler in a couple months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffast Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 if you count cars that arn't running hands down wjm had an ea82t in his rx dyno at about 240chp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 I'll put my hat in for the EA81 crowd. I don't think my car is as fast as Ken's at the moment, but the new header and turbo are going on soon and that will make up the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubastreet Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 I can't understand people who spend a lot of time/money building an engine then don't stick the car on a dyno. you'll get plenty more power out of it if you set up the carb/efi and disty curve propery on a dyno so why not? doing it by trial and error is so hit & miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxsta Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 This may not count...but i never get challanged in my 12psi ea82t MANX BUGGY...its 598kgs in total and pulls hard in all gears.... .runs 3.9 diff and spin,s the motor clear through 6800rpm.. 27 inch rear tyres....its sorta like the dream launch mobile..i never shock-load it..and dont spin the wheel,s on the bitumen....but i have no doubt it would be fun though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 I can't understand people who spend a lot of time/money building an engine then don't stick the car on a dyno. you'll get plenty more power out of it if you set up the carb/efi and disty curve propery on a dyno so why not? doing it by trial and error is so hit & miss. Maybe its because some of us have better things to do, or just dont have the time to deal with dyno'n something. Putting a car on a dyno isnt exactly cheap either. Life happens and it always doenst revolve around cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanislru Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 Maybe its because some of us have better things to do, or just dont have the time to deal with dyno'n something. Putting a car on a dyno isnt exactly cheap either. Life happens and it always doenst revolve around cars. Well said. My ea82t wagon was fast until it got lifted with big tires. Until that it broke loose in third gear at 3000 rpm @15psi. Lots of pull all the way up to 7.5k most likely had similar #'s to WJM. Motor had recent top end rebuild, has oil cooler, TMIC (large core AUDI F.M.I.C.) with well laid out pipeing, higher fuel pressure ~40 psi @idle, TWE Header and DP w 2.5" to the back no cats, ported turbo on the hot side for higher flow, and now runs with a 9.5:1 comp ratio. Too bad it's spinning 29x10.5" tires now:/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubastreet Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 weird - so many people with the all the time and $$$ to get an ea to ~150hp but not an extra half day and couple a hundred bucks to tune it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 weird - so many people with the all the time and $$$ to get an ea to ~150hp but not an extra half day and couple a hundred bucks to tune it. you're also forgetting the fact that some, if not most of us, have to run on a AWD dyno which can be few and far between. The closest AWD dyno to me is 3 hours south so if you add it up just to GET there, I'm well into 60 bucks. Then ~$150 for 2, maybe 3 runs, then another $60 to get home. Granted, I'm not poor, but thats nuts for me with my car thats not even done yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 I plan on dynoing my car and yes I am poor, but there are ways around that. Dyno days are a great opportunity to get on the dyno cheaply. Also, if anyone in the Seattle area needs an all wheel dyno, my friend works at a shop that just opened up Kito Auto Sport in Freemont. http://www.kitoautosport.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanislru Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 weird - so many people with the all the time and $$$ to get an ea to ~150hp but not an extra half day and couple a hundred bucks to tune it. I've spent a fair bit of money on my subies over the years, my legacy ej22t w/mods is pretty damn fast. Personally I think the posts talking about dyno's and tuning have come off sounding like you have little experience with "tuning". Sure I can head down island and dyno my car, hook up the wide band and tune it for whatever the desired result may be but the bottom line is if you have experience and don't care to have #'s to talk about it's not needed. If I dyno'd every car every time I did a mod I'd be broke. I can tell whether I'm rich, lean, or stoich.. That's mostly what you'll get for couple hun. buck around here, oh yeah and bragging #'s. "Tuning" costs alot more than a $150 bucks or so. What are they going to "tune " on my car? Do you know much about our flashed CPU's, or the engine management system? Not much there to "tune" really. Personally I don't want any of the local dyno shop's advice/oppinion, if I did I'd pick up a subscription to Sport Compact or some other glossy crap. My subies are fast sure, but none of them could hold a candle to my old 69 firebird (RIP). EVER. It wasn't meant to turn well or stop but if you've ever honked on a late 60's "strip" car you know that's not needed for thrills. HHmm big block V8 of thunder aahhhh:slobber: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubastreet Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 What are they going to "tune " on my car? Do you know much about our flashed CPU's, or the engine management system? Not much there to "tune" really. No? how about fuel pressure, injector pulse widths, ignition advance? Not covered that in all your experience? I don't know anything about your cpu, but if you don't reprogram it when you heavily modify an engine, you're missing out on a whole lot of cheap power, not to mention risking running it lean. As for bragging rights, I've heard a lot of people bragging about how much power they reckon they're getting out of their EAs, 150hp on a NA engine is a number I've heard many times, and I know enough to know how much you have to tune an EA to get 150 NA. Read: A lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 As far as I know all Subaru's prior to 93 had unprogrammable ECU's. You might be able to piggy back it, but theres more $ and no guarentee it will work right. As for the items you just mentioned, most of those with major upgrades have AF meters, which can be bought fairly cheap. Some here have toasted thier motors because they lacked one and have now learned a important lesson. As for the injector pulse width and ignition advance, thats what a O-Scope is for. And yes, I have 2. Both were cheaper than a dyno run. Alot of us "Old Timers" here (I wont say names) have cut thier teeth on V8 HP and know instinctevly the amount of ponies that are coming out the engine and to the ground. And most likely have spent time on dyno's testing and improving. Some of us just dont need no stinkin dyno. Dyno's are for people who continuesly loose races and are trying to figure out why:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgd73 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 As for bragging rights, I've heard a lot of people bragging about how much power they reckon they're getting out of their EAs, 150hp on a NA engine is a number I've heard many times, and I know enough to know how much you have to tune an EA to get 150 NA. Read: A lot. I have no doubts about the ea and 150 hp staying just n/a. Especially 2wd.The weight lighter and car stiffened (as any race car enthusuast has to contend with on factory cars), does quite alot for the curve to the ground.goal to get rid of the sloppy bass drum and tighten into a easily drum rolling snare so to speak.The rest is easy once that is figured , if mechanically inclined .High compression I have noticed, doesn't seem to be popular on the EA82, it is no doubt the unibody, and axles the weak discouragement.I would love to see one maxxed out with no turbo/charger from a dyno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subarian Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 I can't understand people who spend a lot of time/money building an engine then don't stick the car on a dyno. you'll get plenty more power out of it if you set up the carb/efi and disty curve propery on a dyno so why not? doing it by trial and error is so hit & miss. This is called hijacking a thread, and it's bad message board etiquette. Sure, a lot of guys might bite, but the topic was the fastest EA, not your opinion of people who choose not to put their car on a dyno. Start your own thread if you want to discuss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 This is called hijacking a thread, and it's bad message board etiquette. Sure, a lot of guys might bite, but the topic was the fastest EA, not your opinion of people who choose not to put their car on a dyno. Start your own thread if you want to discuss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rguyver Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Ill get this post back on track ! I have yet to run my brat down the track but my WRX EJ20T pulls it to a 13.2 at 104mph with .99g force in the 1/4 mile acording to my Auto meter DPIC gauge with 180 whp but i have not dynoed it beacuse the nearst 4wd dyno is 6h away and over 100$ a run, i dont need a dyno to tell me my car is fast ! I hopeing to get mid 12's with upping the boost and good tires . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 I hopeing to get mid 12's with upping the boost and good tires . , but still, how can your car count!?!? Its like pitting Zeus against a baby!!!:-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rguyver Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 , but still, how can your car count!?!? Its like Zeus up against an infant!!!:-p well if i dont pop the hood it still looks like a EA81 car LOL:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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