99 leg wagon 5mt with binding

[MDW25gt]

I have a 99 gt wagon with a 5 sp. I have started to notice a slight binding in slow tight turns. I am very familiar with this in the auto. My question is what causes this? and What is the fix? I have 160k miles on the drive train.

 

Thanks

Mike

[fnlyfnd]

Search center diff.................This will bring up info.

 

 

I will pray for you and me that it is just the center carrier bearing.

If yoiu do a search on this nothing will come up. Nipper is the only one (besides me now) that ever mentions this. If the bearing goes bad then it can cause torque bind symptoms. Search my post and it should be the last one I created, its the same as yours.

[lmdew]

I'm getting ready to crush a few center bearings on Auto Trans shafts. I do not know if they are the same, but if you need one and it works for your car let me know. Lmdew@hotmail.com

[Subaru_for_LIfe]

Howdy all, don't know about the '99 Legacy, but on 90-94 Legacies, it's the same.

 

Larry, do you have a driveshaft from a 5spd manual tranny Legacy?

 

Also, I'd like to get one of the center bearings, if he doesn't want it that is.

 

Thanks,

Pye

[johnceggleston]

i have a drive shaft from a 96 legacy wagon, 2.2L, auto, 125k miles. it's sitting witing to go.

 

let me know.

 

john

 

Howdy all, don't know about the '99 Legacy, but on 90-94 Legacies, it's the same.

 

Larry, do you have a driveshaft from a 5spd manual tranny Legacy?

 

Also, I'd like to get one of the center bearings, if he doesn't want it that is.

 

Thanks,

Pye

[MDW25gt]

Search center diff.................This will bring up info.

 

 

I will pray for you and me that it is just the center carrier bearing.

If yoiu do a search on this nothing will come up. Nipper is the only one (besides me now) that ever mentions this. If the bearing goes bad then it can cause torque bind symptoms. Search my post and it should be the last one I created, its the same as yours.

 

What is involved in replacing the center carrier bearing? How do I determine if that is the problem?

[Subaru_for_LIfe]

Hi, unfortunately the auto and manual shafts are of different lengths. But I think the sedan and wagon shafts are of same lengths though.

 

Thanks anyways,

Pye

 

 

i have a drive shaft from a 96 legacy wagon, 2.2L, auto, 125k miles. it's sitting witing to go.

 

let me know.

 

john

[Subaru_for_LIfe]

I haven't done this, but just by looking at the parts diagram, I think you'd have to drop the rear driveshaft. And it looks like there are only two bolts thats holding the center bearing.

 

Pye

 

 

What is involved in replacing the center carrier bearing? How do I determine if that is the problem?

[nipper]

Search center diff.................This will bring up info.

 

 

I will pray for you and me that it is just the center carrier bearing.

If yoiu do a search on this nothing will come up. Nipper is the only one (besides me now) that ever mentions this. If the bearing goes bad then it can cause torque bind symptoms. Search my post and it should be the last one I created, its the same as yours.

 

the center carrier bearing will cause a thumping in the floor. Easy thing to check, just get under the car and shake the driveshaft at the center bearing, there should be no movement.

Unfortunitly i thnk he has TB, and needs a new Viscous soupling. Check your tires make sure they are all inflated and match first, as this can cause torque bind too.

 

nipper

[MDW25gt]

the center carrier bearing will cause a thumping in the floor. Easy thing to check, just get under the car and shake the driveshaft at the center bearing, there should be no movement.

Unfortunitly i thnk he has TB, and needs a new Viscous soupling. Check your tires make sure they are all inflated and match first, as this can cause torque bind too.

 

nipper

 

Does the thumping you talk of occur when in a tight turn? If the carrier bearing is bad, do you replace the entire drive shaft?

 

What makes you say TB? I have delt with torque bind, never had thumping?? I dont think this is the same. This is a 5mt, not an automatic!

 

Mike

[nipper]

Does the thumping you talk of occur when in a tight turn? If the carrier bearing is bad, do you replace the entire drive shaft?

 

What makes you say TB? I have delt with torque bind, never had thumping?? I dont think this is the same. This is a 5mt, not an automatic!

 

Mike

 

sigh - i KNOW its a 5speed. I even said he had a bad VC!!!!!!!

Any AWD vehical can get torque bind. Subarus are no different. If you would SEARCH torque bind you would find out that there is a viscous coulping. This VC works in conjunction with the center differnetial allows the front and rear axles to turn at diffent speeds on curves. Now if the VC is bad, you will have torquebind, as this ability would be gone. Automatics and TB have some tricks to try before it has to be repaired. Manuals once it shows up there isnt much to do aside from saving up money for the repair.

 

The original poster even said he has binding on turns, thats WHY i said its TB.

 

A bad center bearing will give thumping noise, and rarely give you torue bind like symptons. From an engineering and 20 year plus technician point of veiw, in order top do that the bearing almost has to be falling out of the car.

 

i was reffering to fnlyfnd suggestion about it possibly being the center bearing as a seprate response.

 

 

nipper

[johnceggleston]

i got the used 96 a/trans in my 95 leg, and i'm wanting to prevent TB. is there such a thing as "high detergent" trans fluid or should i just rely on more frequent changing of the fluid.?? will a 3k mile change help remove old gunk, then schedule 30/40k changes ?

 

john

 

sigh - i KNOW its a 5speed. I even said he had a bad VC!!!!!!!

Any AWD vehical can get torque bind. Subarus are no different. If you would SEARCH torque bind you would find out that there is a viscous coulping. This VC works in conjunction with the center differnetial allows the front and rear axles to turn at diffent speeds on curves. Now if the VC is bad, you will have torquebind, as this ability would be gone. Automatics and TB have some tricks to try before it has to be repaired. Manuals once it shows up there isnt much to do aside from saving up money for the repair.

 

The original poster even said he has binding on turns, thats WHY i said its TB.

 

A bad center bearing will give thumping noise, and rarely give you torue bind like symptons. From an engineering and 20 year plus technician point of veiw, in order top do that the bearing almost has to be falling out of the car.

 

i was reffering to fnlyfnd suggestion about it possibly being the center bearing as a seprate response.

 

 

nipper

[nipper]

i got the used 96 a/trans in my 95 leg, and i'm wanting to prevent TB. is there such a thing as "high detergent" trans fluid or should i just rely on more frequent changing of the fluid.?? will a 3k mile change help remove old gunk, then schedule 30/40k changes ?

 

john

 

if a flush doesnt cure the TB, odds are its not correctable. You dont want a high detergant fluid since there is good gunk and bad gunk.

The closest youll have is changing to synthetic. The seals may leak for a while but that shoud go away.

In a 96 tranny your already at odds. There was a redesign in 1997 1/2 to correct the failure mode for TB. It still happens on newer cars but that is due to age or bad tires.

No such thing as changing fluids too often. You can do exaclty what you say, also in a pre 1997 and 1/2 you need to be religous about tires matching and air pressure.

 

nipper

[lmdew]

PYE I have your drive shafts for your trans swap. I pulled them from a 92 Legacy Sedan. Good Shape, I'll also send the diff input so if your 96 is different, you can swap them over. That what I did on my son's RS Trans install.

 

Send your shipping address and email.

 

Lmdew@hotmail.com

 

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