BruceyWV Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 and remount? I dont have a lot of tools, so the cheaper/less tools required the better, at 0 psi I cant budge them and dont feel like going back to a shop and letting someone charge me again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger83 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 After you try it with tire irons, you will happily pay them whatever they cahrge..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceyWV Posted August 8, 2006 Author Share Posted August 8, 2006 thats what I was afraid of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine73 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 From what I've seen, once the tire bead seals on the wheel and has been on there a while, it's very difficult to break it by hand. stomping, dead blow hammering, prying, might all by methods to try but don't damage the bead doing it. Why are you R&R'ing the tires? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 From what I've seen, once the tire bead seals on the wheel and has been on there a while, it's very difficult to break it by hand. stomping, dead blow hammering, prying, might all by methods to try but don't damage the bead doing it. Why are you R&R'ing the tires? i've seen people de-bead a tire with a back-hoe before... but you dont have tools... take it in and pay up. you can't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceyWV Posted August 8, 2006 Author Share Posted August 8, 2006 I have some tools, just not what I would call a well set up garage. And I'm trying to balance the swampers further, I've been told that bb's inside the rim fixes it, and re balances the tire everytime it spins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 i would definitely pay to do it, but if yo'ure still inclined to do it: drive a car or truck (the heavier the better) up onto the side wall of the tire. get it just right on the tire just at the edge of the rim and you'll break the bead. then working it off with some garage tools....no fun but it can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 I have some tools, just not what I would call a well set up garage. And I'm trying to balance the swampers further, I've been told that bb's inside the rim fixes it, and re balances the tire everytime it spins. what the hell are you talking about.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 and and if you drive around long enough with a flat tire the bead gets broken as well....and eventually it'll even come off too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hohieu Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 A large vise works for motorcycle tires -- don't know if you have a vice large enough for auto application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brus brother Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 The scientificological approach:banana:. and and if you drive around long enough with a flat tire the bead gets broken as well....and eventually it'll even come off too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceyWV Posted August 8, 2006 Author Share Posted August 8, 2006 To answer Los, and my own question: http://www.jeeps-offroad.com/wheel-tire-tech/21244-mount-dismount-balance-your-own-tires.html Also includes the BB trick, I'll report back on how well this helps when I do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 and remount? I dont have a lot of tools, so the cheaper/less tools required the better, at 0 psi I cant budge them and dont feel like going back to a shop and letting someone charge me again. There are some things that just arent worht doing yourself, this is one of them. Even to do it manually requires a special bead breaking tool. Doing this manually can be dangerous with the worng tools, so go and pay for it. Not to mention they should be rebalanced when the tires are re mounted. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet82 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Do you just want the tires off or do you want them remounted? Geting a tire off a rim is easy---if you no longer want the tire! Gimme a sawzall:brow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceyWV Posted August 8, 2006 Author Share Posted August 8, 2006 I'm not wanting to unmout them, just break the bead enough to pour a few ounces worth of bb's in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 I'm not wanting to unmout them, just break the bead enough to pour a few ounces worth of bb's in why dont you just get your tires balanced.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 not that i truly understand wht your trying to do, but cant you do that through the valve stem. In all my knowledge of balancing, and the history of car repair going ack to about 1900, i have never heard of this... nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceyWV Posted August 8, 2006 Author Share Posted August 8, 2006 I've been told by several people (mainly jeepers on solid axle 35's and such) that it helps tremendously, and these tires have been balanced, there is still noticeable vibrations at highway cruising speeds. Nipper: I might try just the valve stem, they may fit, but then again, the guy doing it is shown popping the bead after taking the valve stem out. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 I've been told by several people (mainly jeepers on solid axle 35's and such) that it helps tremendously, and these tires have been balanced, there is still noticeable vibrations at highway cruising speeds. Nipper: I might try just the valve stem, they may fit, but then again, the guy doing it is shown popping the bead after taking the valve stem out. Thanks yeah dude....there's gonna be. you can't expect to put tank treads on a sedan and expect the ride to be baby's-butt smooth it's more than likely the tread on the tire causing the vibration than the tire being out of balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceyWV Posted August 8, 2006 Author Share Posted August 8, 2006 Still worth 10$ and a try though aint it?, dont be hatin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Still worth 10$ and a try though aint it?, dont be hatin. $10 for the beebees? sure. then if it doesn't work you're paying for someone to dismount and mount 4 tires to empty the beebees, then you're pay for a balance that you probably dont need, because any good shop will rebalance tires after they'ce been dismounted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 yeah dude....there's gonna be. you can't expect to put tank treads on a sedan and expect the ride to be baby's-butt smooth it's more than likely the tread on the tire causing the vibration than the tire being out of balance. what he said. also at low speed the sound may drive you nuts. The vibration is from the extreemly aggressive tread pattern. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceyWV Posted August 8, 2006 Author Share Posted August 8, 2006 These tires have been mounted AND balanced ("As best as tehy could do"), and people with more agressive treads have said that the bb trick works good. One even said if not for the roar, he would think he was running all seasons. Either way, its just money. Thanks for the support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 These tires have been mounted AND balanced ("As best as tehy could do"), and people with more agressive treads have said that the bb trick works good. One even said if not for the roar, he would think he was running all seasons. Either way, its just money. Thanks for the support. hey man, if you do it, and it actually works, let us know, it'll be a cool trick. there's just some non-believers here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 These tires have been mounted AND balanced ("As best as tehy could do"), and people with more agressive treads have said that the bb trick works good. One even said if not for the roar, he would think he was running all seasons. Either way, its just money. Thanks for the support. GIMMIE YOUR MONEY!!!!!!!!!! nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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