christmas22 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 This sucks...I have a (as I said) 93 Subaru Loyale 4x4 wagon. it has close to 160,000 miles on it, I brought it in to have the brakes looked at and they told me it might be a good idea if I look for another car. It needs brakes, front and back, struts and shocks and a new exhaust (which was not a suprise) however they also said the gas tank has a hole in it. I trust these guys, they are good local mechanics, who have been working on this car for a while. I just had some new seals put on It got a new clutch a couple of years ago, and the interior, in my mind is pretty good, it was repainted at 55,000 miles so it has barely any rust,besides some surface stuff around the door handles, and the engine runs great...I don't know that I can do all the work myself, yet I can't afford to have it done. soooo I am unfortunately i am considering selling it. However, I really don't know what I should be looking for, considering the work it needs. I am located in York Maine, and it loves the winters (minus the salt, though I wash it frequently). Any info would be greatly appriciated. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_steverson Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 This may not be much help since I'm in the south, but I bought the same car here (just 1 year newer) for $1500. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgd73 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 This sucks...I have a (as I said) 93 Subaru Loyale 4x4 wagon. it has close to 160,000 miles on it, I brought it in to have the brakes looked at and they told me it might be a good idea if I look for another car. It needs brakes, front and back, struts and shocks and a new exhaust (which was not a suprise) however they also said the gas tank has a hole in it. I trust these guys, they are good local mechanics, who have been working on this car for a while. I just had some new seals put on It got a new clutch a couple of years ago, and the interior, in my mind is pretty good, it was repainted at 55,000 miles so it has barely any rust,besides some surface stuff around the door handles, and the engine runs great...I don't know that I can do all the work myself, yet I can't afford to have it done. soooo I am unfortunately i am considering selling it. However, I really don't know what I should be looking for, considering the work it needs. I am located in York Maine, and it loves the winters (minus the salt, though I wash it frequently). Any info would be greatly appriciated. Thanks local maine mechanic and your old sube? uh oh. Allow me to shed some very real frustration of optimism... Is there parts non-replacable destroyed? what is there reasoning?Did he get specific? I have seen these jap car hating lack of knowledged morons do this to many nieve people. Then they go back to talking about welding the frame rails on thier plow truck as if the main structure of there 4000 lb hillbilly mobile didn't even have a problem. Even if the old sube has a unibody problem, they are even more fixable than the junks I have seen wobbling down the road with an american flag and headers. Every external body part is replacable - there are even underside parts, custom built with patience going stronger and farther than original (I have personally done this non "halfassed" successfully). Get another opinion before giving up. A foriegn car enthusiast's garage has a totally different factual opinion, with optimism. If rust is scary to look at by your mechanic, go find another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 heed what bgd said. hes sorta your neighbor. subaru == great, you already know that.. a second opinion never hurt ANYONE and honestly you should look into doing some work yourself. alot of it is easier than you might think, and its diverting. right guys?? diverting! and anyhow, rust is only hard to fix in certain spots. it just takes some thinking, and like he said there are plenty of mechanic's shops full of people who arent that big on original thought.. they tend to be skeptical of modern compact car manufacturing techniques, and will say any significant rust on a unibody car is terminal and compromising.. and besides, you can always weld steel framework into the car around the unibody if it started to get REALLY bad.. just do so before integrity (and more importantly, geomtery) is compromised :- ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyewdall Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 work = diverting.. uh, yeah, fixing my fleet of cars keeps me from doing what I really should be doing instead.... Although, I really do enjoy wrenching on cars. Brakes on subaru's are pretty easy to do yourself, especially if all you need is new pads/shoes. I bought all new rotors, pads, shoes, one caliper, and master cylinder, from JcWhitney I think, for my '82 subaru for only $350 a few years ago. Two shops told me over $1,100 for this, on a car I only paid $50 for. The gas tank might be the more expensive part, since all the junkyard cars back east probably have lots of rust too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christmas22 Posted September 1, 2006 Author Share Posted September 1, 2006 The gas tank is my only real "concern" I think we will do the brakes ourselves, if we choose to keep it. On the mechanic part of it...my "local" mechanic told me to trash the car 3 years ago...and the one we've been bringing the car to is a foreign car mechanic. I wish I had a garage and a lift at my disposal and I would just take my time and do everything that needs to be done...myself. OOH and a paint shop..then I can get rid of the rust, and paint it all myself. I think I need to take it to a body shop and check out the rust issues, make sure they are not bad then decide about the other work...I guess. Now that I have had a couple days to think about it...I dont think I want to get rid of it, I just need to know what I am diving into...these message boards really help. Seeing what other people have done makes me optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgd73 Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 The gas tank is my only real "concern" I think we will do the brakes ourselves, if we choose to keep it. On the mechanic part of it...my "local" mechanic told me to trash the car 3 years ago...and the one we've been bringing the car to is a foreign car mechanic. I wish I had a garage and a lift at my disposal and I would just take my time and do everything that needs to be done...myself. OOH and a paint shop..then I can get rid of the rust, and paint it all myself. I think I need to take it to a body shop and check out the rust issues, make sure they are not bad then decide about the other work...I guess. Now that I have had a couple days to think about it...I dont think I want to get rid of it, I just need to know what I am diving into...these message boards really help. Seeing what other people have done makes me optimistic. Mechanics opinions get worse the farther north you go. I literally had a local "county sheriff" pull behind my car with hazards on and say "isn't it time to think about letting this car go?" I almost sh*t a brick. My car didn't even look bad. there was the smell of fuel as I sat there on the top of a steep hill in hermon (you may be familiar) in an ice storm and throttle stuck temporarily on my non-warmed up engine.The ice storm was perfect, and I was only one around for the half hour I sat there (the roads were that bad.) Stand your ground. Maybe as a gimmick 15 years from now, you can find the opinionated peoples cars and grab a part or two from the "amercian cars only" junk pile where they end up.I'm not certain of what lasts -- I have summed up the entirety of gm with "I liked the big ol' delco radio." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christmas22 Posted September 1, 2006 Author Share Posted September 1, 2006 My husband knows hermon....he follows UFC thats where Dana White is from. Was that possibly that horrible ice storm of 98 you were mentioning?..that was quite bad. If I had my wagon at that time, I would probally have driven around in it too, just cuz I could...I hear you about the county sheriff to... I have spent enough time (though not much) up maine to picture that situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgd73 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 My husband knows hermon....he follows UFC thats where Dana White is from. Was that possibly that horrible ice storm of 98 you were mentioning?..that was quite bad. If I had my wagon at that time, I would probally have driven around in it too, just cuz I could...I hear you about the county sheriff to... I have spent enough time (though not much) up maine to picture that situation Is that a short dark haired guy-? (I pm'd you) sounds familiar from high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Your car doesn't sound "done" to me. I don't give up on them until there are holes where rust used to be, on parts that don't unbolt. I've junked 2 gas tanks that were good. Still have a third in a car that is about to go to the scrap yard. It wasn't leaking when it became a parts car a year ago. I'm in CT. so it might be a bit far... Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Your car doesn't sound "done" to me. I don't give up on them until there are holes where rust used to be, on parts that don't unbolt. I've junked 2 gas tanks that were good. Still have a third in a car that is about to go to the scrap yard. It wasn't leaking when it became a parts car a year ago. I'm in CT. so it might be a bit far... Dave another reminder that i absolutely HAVE to get some pics of the body rust on my car.. the mechanism for opening the gas door is exposed by a rust hole at the bottom corner of the rear windscreen. by hole, think softball sized.. reaching my arm into the hole, thru to the trunk, then out the speaker hole and waving at myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christmas22 Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 Ok..yea...my rust is not THAT bad, at least where I can see. when it got repainted at 50k it got an underbody spray too, so I am hoping the bottom isnt too bad either, minus the heat shield for the exhaust, thats falling apart. I think conn might be a bit far for a gas tank, but thanks for the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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