Bluroo Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 hey all I have 89 DL EA82 5spd 4x4 wagon, did the head gasket replacement last fall put new oil pump seal in at the same time now I have a vale on the #4 piston that is rattleing bad I tried Seafoam no luck,also have a problem with it useing some water no water in oil now water leaks. What I nedd to know is 2 things. can I use Barrs leak for the water prblem I have the Bars leak for the heads not the raidiator. And what can I do for the rattle in the valve? It sounds like its tapping on the piston. Hope someone can help, its the only tansportation I got. Thanks BLUROO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Johnson Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I can assure that the valve isn't hitting the piston. Unless it some how got longer. It's probably a dirty HVLA (Hydraulic Valve Lash Adjuster). Change the oil and sometimes a different brand of filter will fix it. If you do that and it goes away for a while and comes back...it may be the oil pump seals or the pump itself. I wouldn't recommend the Stop leak in the water...because it stops leaks by clogging it up...which it does to everything in the engine. Try to find where the water is coming out at. Maybe the over flow? or a loose hose clamp? My $0.02 Justin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomRhere Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Coolant loss could be from a number of things. As said, check for loose hose clamp, or poorly sealing radiator cap. A small pin-hole in a hose would cause coolant loss, and can be extremly hard to find, same with pin-hole in radiator. Leak is small enough that the coolant evaporates instead of making a puddle. Does leave a whitish deposit trail though, well,, most of the time it does. I've found a few of those pesky little leaks by getting the engine up to temp and looking the engine bay over, looking for wisps of steam. This is best done a calm day, (no wind), and take your time while looking, don't rush it. You could have a bad seal on one of the intake to head gaskets too. It could let the coolant into the cylinders where it gets burned. May not be enough of a leak to cause a visable amount of steam from the exhaust though. Makes it another leak area that's hard to locate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 the bars leaks is only going to be a band-aid at best... it was different when all the cars around had huge blocked V8s with coolant passages that you could drive a truck through (metaphorically, of course) and enouch space inside to hang a heater coil that DOESNT look like it was manufactured by gnomes... but in modern, compact cars.. its often more of a hindrance not too much further down the road, then it is a help when you use it. and try doing a search for the tick of death or TOD if you dont believe what people tell you about the valve noise... the engine is tolerance, so the valve and piston cant be hitting (thats what hti meant) and sticking hydraulic lifters are and ABSURDLY common problem, usually caused either by clogged passageways as he said, or low oil pressure. Low can mean less than optimal but still OK.. but its usually best to rebuild or replace the oil pump if the noise gets relentless, unforgiving, never goes away, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Regarding the ticking, what did you use to replace the "o-ring" between head and cam-case? An SOA gasket (metal reinforced o-ring)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 northwet: by SOA, did you mean subaru of america?? are the fel-pro ones no good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petersubaru Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 after repairing and taking advice from the write up "tick of death", the car runs real quite now...before doing the job one of my valves would tick so loud as to turn heads on the street.... the bars leaks is only going to be a band-aid at best... it was different when all the cars around had huge blocked V8s with coolant passages that you could drive a truck through (metaphorically, of course) and enouch space inside to hang a heater coil that DOESNT look like it was manufactured by gnomes... but in modern, compact cars.. its often more of a hindrance not too much further down the road, then it is a help when you use it. and try doing a search for the tick of death or TOD if you dont believe what people tell you about the valve noise... the engine is tolerance, so the valve and piston cant be hitting (thats what hti meant) and sticking hydraulic lifters are and ABSURDLY common problem, usually caused either by clogged passageways as he said, or low oil pressure. Low can mean less than optimal but still OK.. but its usually best to rebuild or replace the oil pump if the noise gets relentless, unforgiving, never goes away, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 its funny.. the first time i heard the TOD on my car, i just kinda ignored it... bad thing, i was low on oil at the time and a top off made it go right away... but there i was hearing my lifters clacking like a SOB... knowing what it sounded like, and thinking, "hey.. that could be _really_ bad. maybe i should look into it... eh." I kinda felt guilty at the time. as much advice as i have given to people here who show up asking about it (i like to talk, so i'll save other people some effort if i can) i havent done a single thing to fix my own. i top off the oil, and i dont hear it. just shrug it off. well, soon im gonna be replacing every gasket and seal possible, so i'll probly reseal the pump at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 northwet: by SOA, did you mean subaru of america?? are the fel-pro ones no good?Yes, Subaru Of America. I haven't experienced the FelPro ones yet, but should be OK. Many headsets do NOT include these gaskets, so improvisation (rubber o-rings) or reuse of old gaskets can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Johnson Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Yes, Subaru Of America. I haven't experienced the FelPro ones yet, but should be OK. Many headsets do NOT include these gaskets, so improvisation (rubber o-rings) or reuse of old gaskets can happen. Don't use anything other than the metal reinforced ones. I've tried the improvised o-rings and when I tore the engine apart again...it wasn't there...i found it embedded in the pick up screen of the oil pump. :-\ I don't know how...but it was there(Not in one piece). Now I bought some of the OEM ones from http://www.rockauto.com They look like this: Part number is A4002-56062. You have to order 10 at a time and they're $1.60 USD a piece. I have 8 I could sell for that price plus postage:brow:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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