outback_97 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Google Video Link http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...42340359932162 Full Video Youtube Link Truncated to meet 10 minute maximum length Download Link http://www.sendspace.com/file/jl4zdi (30 megs wmv format) From this thread: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1097949 Anyone else seen this yet? It's like the old Outback vs. Volvo video but much more comprehensive. Read the thread for more details. I think it's great that they're trying to do some comparisons with different "AWD" systems that are being sold and marketed. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moodybluesr Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Neat... I liked the 35 degree dirt hill climb part the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannonball Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Great video. Makes me want to find a steep dirt hill to drive up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyKeith Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Neat... I liked the 35 degree dirt hill climb part the best. I'll second that! However, it was nice of them to eventually mention that these test were being done by ramdom subaru sales associates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virrdog Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Very non-objective descriptions... I'm not on one side or the other (I have my REAL 4x4 GL to do slippery condition duty), but this is obviously skewed in favor of the Subarus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outback_97 Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 I'll second that! However, it was nice of them to eventually mention that these test were being done by ramdom subaru sales associates. There's a lot of discussion (and noise) on the nasioc thread about that. I think some of the tests had independent drivers with no affiliation to Subaru, and some with sales associates for other brands. But, as this is a video put together by Subaru, it's hard to call it objective. Of course they are going to put their best foot forward, but nevertheless I found the videos interesting. I don't have speakers on my computer here at work so I haven't heard the audio yet. I asked the original poster if the video will be available for viewing at dealerships in higher quality and he said yes it will, which will be nice since the quality of the compressed videos on the web leaves much to be desired IMO. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manarius Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 During those hill climbs, I wonder if the other cars even had their 4WD systems turned on. It certainly didn't seem like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Ill bet there systems just suck thats all. GO SUBARU!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannonball Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 The one thing I found interesting was the OB in the side to side maneuvers did not disply it's "at it's limits" instabilty that Consumers Reports gives as a weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Wish theyd included my car in that vid, i'd love to see how it stacks up against a subaru. Then again i guess it was for USDM vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamal Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 A little biased I'd say but I suppose that's expected. B9 sits there spinning all four on the rollers, then he backs down to get a run up it. "look how easy it powered up the rollers!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virrdog Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 And there is no way to know if they entered the switchbacks at 50 mph in the other cars and get on the brakes while turning instead of the smooth 35 mph runs in the Subes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fishums Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 I don't trust the fact that it is subaru "sales people driving" I really dislike sales people, even if they are subaru sales people. Plus, those switchbacks look much faster than 35 mph in the volvo. They should show a GL D/R hatch stop half way up on that 35 degree hill, then start going again! Lets make it more of a challenege how about 45 or 50 degrees instead, with bald tires? Cool video though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 speaking of tires, in some cases - they could make a big difference in some of thoses tests. still, fun video - thanx for posting. Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outback_97 Posted September 26, 2006 Author Share Posted September 26, 2006 OK, as I mentioned in previous posts, you should read the original nasioc thread (or at least SoDealer's comments) for more context. I'll paraphrase: This was made for Subaru salespeople to reinforce what they learned at a demo event and compare with commonly cross-shopped vehicles. There are car salespeople representing other makes as well. The narration and presentation is skewed towards Subaru... what else would you expect from a video produced for Subaru sales? Other systems are shown in a favorable light as well... VW's handled the roller test quite well IIRC... Volvo's wagon climbed the hill. Again, read the nasioc thread if you want some context from people who actually were there. I wasn't there, just found this interesting and figured others might as well. Cannonball: Probably because it's the VDC OB shown I'd guess. Carl: Tires do make a big difference... I believe they ran whatever the mfg deemed worthy of being OEM equipment. You're welcome Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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