XT-6 Oh Ya! updated 11-23

[TomRhere]

Well,.... between Miles Fox and friends finding it, and me buying it. There now resides,...out in my garage,...an XT-6,...just wishing it was a Turbo model................

 

I'm getting the engine, clutch assembly stuff. Along with the ECM wiring and what not.

Miles is after the suspention, tranny and what not.

Shouldn't be much left of it other than the body shell, when we're done.

 

Question.... Anybody ever tried putting the XT dash and Steering wheel set-up, in a 2nd Gen BRAT? Thinking that it really won't be a doable thing, but it would be awesome. Atleast in my humble opinion.

 

Adam, Scott, I'll be asking you guys quite afew questions about the ER-27 engine swap over. Mounting, wiring and such. I'll probally figure most of it out myself, but there's always those little, "Gotcha's".

 

For those who may be wondering. The EA-82 w/Weber will most likely be residing on the sidelines for a while. Atleast untill I can find another worthy body for it, prefferably, a BRAT.

Sorry, I'm kinda prejudiced in that aspect.

 

We will probally be selling parts from the body shell. But, It needs to be dismantled first to check out over-all condition of parts. She's in a sad and neglected state. Can't say at the moment what is salvagable.

 

Will keep those interested in body parts, advised of the outcome of the inspection.

 

Been wanting to do this, eversince I ran across Scott's site. Was way tempted to have his BRAT as the wall-paper on the Desk Top.

Wife ixnayed that idea, but I still wanted to do what he has done.

 

Now,..... I have another piece of the puzzle.

 

This camper be a "Happy One".

[subarubrat]

Feel free to ask me anything you want about the conversion and hookup.

 

As you strip a few pointers.

 

 

 

Get ALL the harness and connectors that go from the ECU in the trunk to the engine.

 

Get the ECU.

 

Do NOT cut the ECU wiring harness it will be just the right length although it looks long.

 

Don't worry about the part that is under the dash containing the ignition and fuel pump relays, you can build that on the ECU itself and save MUCH space.

 

Get the fuel pump.

 

Get the intake and MAF, toss the airbox.

 

Get the motor mounts.

 

Get the bracket that holds the coil, it has a crucial electrical part.

 

Get the flywheel, ditch the clutch and pressure plate.

 

Get the header.

 

Get the O2 sensor.

 

Save the alternator wiring but don't plan on using it.

[electryc_monk]

someone was and did a jpeg documentaion of the project.... just not to completion anyways as i haven't heard hide nore hair of it since this summer when it was initiall posted back on the old board i do believe.

 

the project was the XT dash and steering assembly into a GL 3-door setup.

 

persoanlly I had a wild idea but then when this came up i realized the major effort involved in tackwelding the harness and stuff into the GL body/ dash from the XT stuff.... it looked wild as all get out but, it did make me situp and take notice the manhours invovled in the entire DASH swap they where up to on top of the steeringwheel swapout....

 

 

just don't let this stop ya!

[TomRhere]

Thanks Scott!

 

1st thing on the to-do list, is to find out why it wouldn't run. Don't know much about it, other than it wouldn't start. Owner didn't want to put anymore money into it, and just left it at the repair shop.

Could be something major, could be something simple. Would be the tit's if it was just T-belts. Garage owner said it had low compression, but he didn't really want to go into details much. Just wanted rid of it.

Battery is deader than a 200 year old doornail, so I can't even crank-it over until I get another battery.

Even if I have to do a re-build of the engine, I have the bigger piece of the puzzle. And the car was only $200.00, then some money to a friend to help go fetch-it. After Miles and I settle-up, I'll only be into it for abit over $100.00. Not to shabby I thinks.

If the light is good after work tomorrow, I'll try for some pics and get them up in my photo albulm. But pics ain't on the top of my list right now.

Wife's thinking she's going to demand that I fix-it for her. Keeps saying, but what if I decide I like it.

Kinda to bad Dear, no Title for one, and I'm only 1/2 owner of the car. So, your out-bid.

Don't think she's wanting to accept that idea.

[TomRhere]

Went out to garage after work today, and started to do abit of troubleshooting. Slapped in a good battery, and started checking things over.

Got good spark, got fuel. Well it's pumping some pretty foul smelling stuff that used to be gasoline, anyways.

Kinda sorta offered to fire off once, right after cranking it a bit, stopping, then cranking it over again. She fired, 1 time.

Decided to check disty/crank timing, as someone has put new tune-up parts in her at sometime. Disty is way off the mark!

So, decided to check into it further, by way of T-belt timing.

 

I was right!!!

 

Someone has put new belts on the engine, and they have them way out of sync. Both cams pointing same direction, and they missed the T-belt timing mark by a mile. Looks like they timed the cams to the 0* mark and not the lll marks.

Not Knocking on the guy that did this, as I had problems my 1st time of doing t-belts. But I stuck with it, asked the knowledgable ones here on the board, and I got my '82 running. Seems this person just gave up on it. So sorry for him, but to my good fortune.

I'll work on it tomorrow after work, and get her timed right. Pretty sure she'll fire up now. Have to get some fresh go juice first.

Also need to get some kerosene for my heater. Garage gets cold quick after sun goes down. I'm not ready for the cold weather yet. It can wait afew more weeks, can't it.

[86subaru]

well i have a turbo ea82 motor runs good, new gaskets, timming belts, rear main, ..good luck tom sounds good for you

[TomRhere]

Finished up re-doing the T-belts today. Had to make me a tool for torquing the P/S belt, as they be different pullyes than the EA-82's are.

Anyways, got all of the nessecities back on the engine, didn't put the covers on the T-belts, nor did I re-install the electric fans. Had to re-set the plug wires on the disty cap, as someone had rotated them CCW during a troubleshooting episode previously to my buying it.

Dumped 2 gallons of fresh go juice into the tank, and fired that mutha up!!!

Let it run out in the driveway for about 15 minutes while looking it over for signs of leakage anywhere. Goosed the go-pedal a couple of times, and pasted a wasp nest against the back wall of my garage. Think it's still stuck there now, 3 hours later.

Got a case of Huge Gonads, and decided to take her out for a short scream down the road. I don't have a Title and therefore no plates for this car.

O---M-----G-----!!! What a difference 2 more cylinders, and MPFI make. This thing just absolutely flies on down the road. Clutch pedal/cable could use some tweakage, but man,,,,,,,I LOVE IT!!!!!!

Can just imagine what a Turbo would do to it. Think maybe I might give that a try on down the road.

Real shame I have to tear this car down, and get rid of the body. As I said, no Title, plus it is way to rusted to even think about saving. Atleast on my budget, anyways.

More up dates to follow..................

[Adam N.D.J.]

Hey Tom, you think that's fast, wait till you get it in a rig thats way lighter, like the Brat! You got yourself a sweet score, I was out 500 bucks with all my gettin stuffs (motor, ecu, harness, little nickel and dime stuff). Just like Scott said, pull the entire harness out of the car first, don't cut a single thing, then when you have the whole thing out, start pulling the computer harness from the rest of the body wireing. There will be lotsa wires from the computer harness that are integrated into the body harness, your goal here is to make sure you have all the wires from the motor to the computer intact. There should be about 70 wires, although some of them are non-essential, (like the P/s control wire, A/c controls, cruise), but keep them anyways, makes things easy to trouble shoot. Also keep that coil bracket in a very very very safe place, the ignition amplifier on it is very important, this caused me some problems, and Scott too if I remember correctly.

You've got the parts there for a 5 lug swap, or is that part of the deal with Miles? either way, some good stuff. Kinda hate to see a good running XT-6 go like that, but it is definatly a good cause. 3 GL-6 Brats will make it a kewl world.

[TomRhere]

Miles claimed dibs on the suspension components and the 5 speed trans. I'm seriously considering the 6-lug mod myself, so the 5-lug parts are a no biggie. Got a D/R 5 speed already, so I don't need the tranny, either.

Yes it truly is a shame this XT is so rusted out, would've been a nice keeper. Floorboards are still solid, but the rockers and sub-frames are shot. The whole bottom of the radiator support is gone. The side wells in the trunk aren't there anymore, either.

 

Adam,

Tried looking up info on your site as to how you did your engine mounting. Couldn't get to the BRAT pages.

You have the engine sitting in there as it normally would, right?!? Then you re-did the suspension under that to get your 6" lift, ifin I remember right. Thinking of doing simular with mine, along with the transfercase and flipped rear diff unit, like you and Lumpycam have done.

 

Just amassing knowledge and parts needed list right now. Won't be doing any work on the BRAT until later this year, which isn't very long until it's next year.

I'm hoping to have the majority of the work completed by March/April, with maybe the exception of the final paint and stripes.

Gotta get busy scrapping on the XT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TomRhere]

Spent the day tearing the XT down, from 8:am to 6:pm. Got most of the interior out, still have the steering column and the heatercore box of the climate control system to remove yet, and I still need to fish the rest of the wiring harness out.

The main part of the dash was way to much fun trying to remove, even after I found all of the hidden bolts. Got the ECU and it's wiring out, and layed to the side.

Got everything on the engine disconnected and it's ready to be pulled. Only thing holding it in the car are the motor mounts. Was way surprized at the exhaust studs, all but one came right out. Had one argue with me about it's removale, but I won.

Plan on having the engine hanging on the hoist, shortly after work tomorrow. Then it's get the rest of the exaust out, finish pulling the wiring, steering wheel and instrument cluster.

Tuesday should have the tranny, front suspension, and rear suspension on the garage floor. Well, maybe by Wednesday night.

I did do one boo-boo, Forgot to un-plug the O2 sensor before I dropped the exaust header. It un-plugged itself as it hit the floor. Pulled the entire wire with terminal end still attached, right out of the harness. Rats, darn, and golly gee wilikers.

[TomRhere]

Engines out, tranny is out, entire front suspension is lying beside the car. Steeringwheel and dash cluster is out, heater core box is out. Just need to concentrate on the rear end of the car now.

Was way suprized at the ease of getting the bolts out for the main front crossmember, and front tranny mount crossmember. Especially after fighting with the rear tranny mount cross member bolts, all 4 of them.

Still have to drop the rear diff, gas tank, and the rest of the exhaust system.

Then it's time for a trailer, and it's off to someone elses garage for their needs and wants.

[MilesFox]

so you got that mutha runnin! i think its the same one that was for service at auburn undercare. i remember the 5spd.

 

yup, the parts are spoken for, this was the butler xt-6. i referred it to tom, after being out bid on ebay for an xt, who took the cheap price. tom and i settle up for the parts both way. i was already looking for xt6 parts for trashwagon for the 5-lug

 

i get the trans and suspension parts. axles and diff, driveshaft.

 

(tom, did you get the trunk open, was there the rim for that donut on the back?)

 

tom gets the motor and clutch parts, ecu, and interior/extereior

[TomRhere]

Yea, I did! You got all 4 Aluminum rims. Must be a bead leak in the one that was off when it sat at Brents. I pumped it up Saturday before the test drive, lasted until late Sunday before it was way low. Didn't see anything in the tread area, as far as nail or whatever.

I dropped the whole front suspension out, you'll have to deal with getting off what you want off of it. Just wanting to get it stripped off the major parts we want, so I can get it out of my garage. I popped the axles off the trans, so they're still on the hubs.

Think we should take this to PM's ifin you want to continue.

[MilesFox]

[TomRhere]

I'm done with it, finally. Well almost.

 

Got the rear suspension laying on the garage floor now.

Pulled all of the hoses and the pump part of the air-ride system.

Got the individual struts off, along with their solenoids.

 

Where's the brain for the air-ride located??

 

The body shell is now resting on jackstands, with no engine, tranny, front suspension, or rear suspension. Really kinda sad to see it that way.

 

This car is more rusted than I originally thought. About the only parts of the underneath, that aren't all rusted are the main floor section, and the gas tank.

 

Again, I was way surprized at how easy the bolts, holding the rear suspension section in, came out. Broke them loose with the 1/2" drive breaker bar, and spun them out with the 3/8" rachet. Really easy, they were.

 

Going to grab the E-brake cables, and the clutch cable, then I'm totally finished with it.

[1ABAJA]

Damn Tom....way to go!

 

Sure am glad it didn't fall into the hands of Ro-Neece!:moon:

 

Josh!