good idea?

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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=15435561#post15435561

[ShawnW]

Please don't cross link a question just repost the question on USMB. People here usually dont want to have to register or login to Nasioc just to reply to you.

 

And no, nothing would just bolt in you'd be in for a huge custom job and it wouldn't be worth it. These older cars are cool for what they are just like a WRX is. If you want an old car take its styling and the same for the new. If you want a custom car build one.

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Please don't cross link a question just repost the question on USMB. People here usually dont want to have to register or login to Nasioc just to reply to you.

 

And no, nothing would just bolt in you'd be in for a huge custom job and it wouldn't be worth it. These older cars are cool for what they are just like a WRX is. If you want an old car take its styling and the same for the new. If you want a custom car build one.

that was what i want to do, either do that or swap a turbo brat motor into it.

 

and sorry about that link thing

[Caboobaroo]

ok, for one, interior stuff from a WRX or an STi won't fit, period. You have to remember that there is an airbag on the passenger side so it would have to be removed, then, you'd have to find a spot to cut the dash down. Center console is going to be way to large for the car. Basically, by installing the interior from an STi or a WRX, you'll lose all extra, moveable room inside the cab, so imagine driving with your knees in your chest and not being able to turn around to look behind you.

 

Also, good luck on finding an EA81T, which is what came in the turbo coupes and Brats in '83 and '84. If you want to do some fab work, you can put an EA82T and a 5-speed in it but that requires cutting and boxing the front frame rails to give enough clearance to the valvecovers or you'll have maybe 1/2" on either side on them. In my '78 Brat, before I decided to tear it down, I was running a FE 1600cc engine. It has a higher compression then the regular EA71 so it required better fuel then regular but with a Holley 5200 on there (Weber), and with it being rejetted, it had a ton of power. If you're looking for something that doesn't require tons of fab work to make it go pretty decent, you might want to look into getting an EA82T car, if it be a sedan, a wagon, or an RX. If you are up to doing all the tons of fab work and figuring out how to make it all fit/work together, then by all means, go for it. Don't let us try and tell you its not possible, because it is, its not going to be a very easy or cheap road by any means.

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ok, for one, interior stuff from a WRX or an STi won't fit, period. You have to remember that there is an airbag on the passenger side so it would have to be removed, then, you'd have to find a spot to cut the dash down. Center console is going to be way to large for the car. Basically, by installing the interior from an STi or a WRX, you'll lose all extra, moveable room inside the cab, so imagine driving with your knees in your chest and not being able to turn around to look behind you.

 

Also, good luck on finding an EA81T, which is what came in the turbo coupes and Brats in '83 and '84. If you want to do some fab work, you can put an EA82T and a 5-speed in it but that requires cutting and boxing the front frame rails to give enough clearance to the valvecovers or you'll have maybe 1/2" on either side on them. In my '78 Brat, before I decided to tear it down, I was running a FE 1600cc engine. It has a higher compression then the regular EA71 so it required better fuel then regular but with a Holley 5200 on there (Weber), and with it being rejetted, it had a ton of power. If you're looking for something that doesn't require tons of fab work to make it go pretty decent, you might want to look into getting an EA82T car, if it be a sedan, a wagon, or an RX. If you are up to doing all the tons of fab work and figuring out how to make it all fit/work together, then by all means, go for it. Don't let us try and tell you its not possible, because it is, its not going to be a very easy or cheap road by any means.

i saw a turbo brat motor for sale on ebay for only 650.00 and i am actually looking to get a 5 spd tranny in the near future but i am curious to find out if there is one that will fit onto that motor.

[Caboobaroo]

But remember, thats JUST a motor. You'll need a full wiring harness, ECM, fuel lines, fuel pump, coil, MAF sensor, and a few other items to even be close to getting it to work. Now if for $650 bucks, it comes with all that, then by all mean, go for it. Also, ANY EA82 5-speed tranny will bolt onto an EA81. So you have a choice of tranny...

NONTURBO:

Part Time 4wd 5-speed, single range pushbutton (DL, some GLs and Loyale)

Part Time 4wd 5-speed, dual range (Nonturbo GL and some Loyales)

Full Time 4wd 5-speed, single range with locking center diff (XT6)

 

TURBO:

Part Time 4wd 5-speed, single range pushbutton (GL turbo and GL-10 turbo)

Part Time 4wd 5-speed, dual range ('85, '86 RX sedans and some GL-10 sedans)

Full Time 4wd 5-speed, single range with locking center diff (turbo XT, some GL-10s)

Full Time 4wd 5-speed, dual range with locking center diff (RX)

 

Remember, all of the turbo trannies have a 3.7 final drive. Most of the NA trannies have a 3.9 final drive but there are some weird ones with 3.7. Also, turbo trannies have a 25 spline axle stub so larger DOJs would need to be retrofitted onto your stock front axles, whereas the NA trannies don't (but again, there are some weird ones).

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But remember, thats JUST a motor. You'll need a full wiring harness, ECM, fuel lines, fuel pump, coil, MAF sensor, and a few other items to even be close to getting it to work. Now if for $650 bucks, it comes with all that, then by all mean, go for it. Also, ANY EA82 5-speed tranny will bolt onto an EA81. So you have a choice of tranny...

NONTURBO:

Part Time 4wd 5-speed, single range pushbutton (DL, some GLs and Loyale)

Part Time 4wd 5-speed, dual range (Nonturbo GL and some Loyales)

Full Time 4wd 5-speed, single range with locking center diff (XT6)

 

TURBO:

Part Time 4wd 5-speed, single range pushbutton (GL turbo and GL-10 turbo)

Part Time 4wd 5-speed, dual range ('85, '86 RX sedans and some GL-10 sedans)

Full Time 4wd 5-speed, single range with locking center diff (turbo XT, some GL-10s)

Full Time 4wd 5-speed, dual range with locking center diff (RX)

 

Remember, all of the turbo trannies have a 3.7 final drive. Most of the NA trannies have a 3.9 final drive but there are some weird ones with 3.7. Also, turbo trannies have a 25 spline axle stub so larger DOJs would need to be retrofitted onto your stock front axles, whereas the NA trannies don't (but again, there are some weird ones).

so basically it woult be better to go with a non turbo(weird one) that wouldnt have to be retro fitted on to my axles or what not??

[Caboobaroo]

yes, I'd go with a nonturbo tranny but there are some nonturbo trannies that have the 3.7 final drive, which are pretty rare (why I refered to them as "weird"). Most turbo final drives are a 3.7 whereas the nonturbo are 3.9

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yes, I'd go with a nonturbo tranny but there are some nonturbo trannies that have the 3.7 final drive, which are pretty rare (why I refered to them as "weird"). Most turbo final drives are a 3.7 whereas the nonturbo are 3.9

so im guessing that the 3.9 har more of a limit than the other 3.7??