david_steverson Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Hello all, I'm putting new timing belts, water pump and oil pump on my '94 Loyale. While degreasing the bare front of the engine, a ball bearing fell out from somewhere. I've had a look in my Haynes manual but do not see it. Does anyone know if this goes behind the oil pump, like some sort of check ball? Or maybe somewhere else? Or maybe it was there from days of old, buried in layers of gunk. Thanks in advance! Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_steverson Posted October 15, 2006 Author Share Posted October 15, 2006 PS It's a little bigger than the size of a pencil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_steverson Posted October 15, 2006 Author Share Posted October 15, 2006 and not the one that goes on the oil pump where the filter attaches, that one is still there. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subaru_dude Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 wanna say hey from TN cuz there's not many soob nuts down here in the southeast... and I have no idea where that could have fallen from. I've had an ea82 apart before... but I am not familiar with any small ball bearings towards the front of the eingine. don't think there's any behind the oil pump. could very well have been buried in the gunk... and could have been from something important cuz i don't know!!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john in KY Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Check the belt tensoiners. Don't know if they use ball or roller bearings but what the heck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 youre talking about a steel ball about 3/8-1/2 inch in diameter?? the belt tensioners use ball bearings, but nothing THAT big.. it was probably an odd chunk of road debris/old mechanic leftover???? but I cant imagine what it might be otherwise. if you see lots of people viewing this thread, and no answers, that what i would take it to be (especially since i have now gone and put my nose out. If I'm wrong, someone is BOUND to chime in, right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_steverson Posted October 16, 2006 Author Share Posted October 16, 2006 Daeron, Actually, it's 1/4 inch diameter. Looks just like the one on the oil pump filter face (which is still there). I started all this because all of a sudden, the car started making noise like valves out of adjustment, but I could isolate the source. Manual said oil pump can cause this type noise. Maybe there are (were) 2 such metal balls in the oil pump?? and that is the problem. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joostvdw Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 the noise you're hearing are probably the HLA, (hydraulic lash adjusters) and they can make noise if they're dirty of when the oil pump sucks in air through the gasket, a very common and easy to fix problem. please use the search "TOD" of "tick of death" that should yield you a couple of topics, and I even believe there was a recent one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_steverson Posted October 16, 2006 Author Share Posted October 16, 2006 Thanks for the reply, joostvdw. I did a search as you suggested and don't think that's the problem. The threads indicated TOD was a 'come and go' noise, whereas mine, since it started has not ceased. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooziewhatsit Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 looking at the oil pump housing... There's a bolt on the lower right going into the housing at an angle. I think there might be a spring/BB behind that. If that bolt came out, you'd have the BB, and probably a lot of noise also (I could be completely wrong also) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgd73 Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Thought of this post when I was tearing the engine apart. The ball bearing could be this in photo (pressure relief?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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