destey Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 I've been pondering this for a few months now. I want fast. First I was certain I wanted an '04+ WRX. Then I checked the insurance rates (I'm 25). IMO the '02-03 WRX are ugly because of the headlights, I won't consider them. Then i thought SVX. But there aren't a lot of them around, and they only come in auto (not sure I want to convert). I like the legacy gt (w/2.5 turbo), but I'm guessing it has the same problems as the WRX -- high insurance Here's what I was thinking: Sedan Turbo Not outlandish insurance rates What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virrdog Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 92-94 Legacy Sport Sedan (very LOW insurance rates) 2.2L turbo. SVX with a 5 speed swap already done. Should be a few floating around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlsimpso Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Talk to these guys about 5 speed SVX: http://www.smallcar.com/ A Legacy GT might be slightly less expensive because it is considered a family car. If you look at WRX's again, get an '05 or newer. The front end was changed in '04, but still has the old interior, with the single cups holder. The '05 has a revised center console with two cup holders:) Have you considered doing a JDM turbo swap? I am looking at that for my 98GT. There are all sorts of issues to consider with that, but at least the insurance should be cheaper then an WRX or gen3 GT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 The fastest non-wrx soob is probably the turbo Forester. Don't let the looks fool you - its a rocket. Needs a little stiffer suspension, but, being classed as a 'compact SUV/whatever' might get you lower insurance rates. Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlsimpso Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 I forgot about the turbo Forester. Other then being the ultimate lesbaru, they are impressive. Get one with a 5 speed and you will have something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger83 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Call your insurance company. Legacy GT's are generally less to insure than the WRX. YMMV and insurance is expensive here. The LGT was 15% more than our Outback 3.0R wagon. The WRX was 50% more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Funny u say this, because with my dad 04 nissan titan LE he pays a little less then he pays for our subaru legacy 93 non turbo. That makes so sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manarius Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Funny u say this, because with my dad 04 nissan titan LE he pays a little less then he pays for our subaru legacy 93 non turbo. That makes so sense! You're in Canada. That makes a big difference. You want a WRX, you're gonna pay in insurance. My vote goes to a Legacy or a Forester XT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine73 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Yah that turbo forester, 0-60 in like 5.9 seconds, now that's not too shaby compared to other common production cars. And even if it is the ultimate 'lesbaru' it wouldn't be any worse than when I saw a jeep with the bumper sticker 'bad girls drive bad toys' but it was a guy driving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I always felt it was the Legacy wagons that were - um - more associated with an alternate lifestyle. Seems to me the perception about this predates the introduction of the Forester. Anyway - I wouldn't let it stop me from driving what the h3!! i wanted. Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manarius Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I think if the wagon is turbo, I can't see it being associated with an alternate lifestyle. When you're whooping another car's rump roast in your TLeg, they can't really think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I think if the wagon is turbo, I can't see it being associated with an alternate lifestyle. When you're whooping another car's rump roast in your TLeg, they can't really think that. Yeah, if they just took a licking in a fair race....wait...uh....nevermind ;^) Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyewdall Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I always felt it was the Legacy wagons that were - um - more associated with an alternate lifestyle. Seems to me the perception about this predates the introduction of the Forester. Anyway - I wouldn't let it stop me from driving what the h3!! i wanted. Carl Uhh, I thought it significantly predated the introduction of the Legacy too... EA81 wagons at least.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Uhh, I thought it significantly predated the introduction of the Legacy too... EA81 wagons at least.... Didn't a California based dealership start advertising in a publication popular with gays? I guess I don't know the history of it. Anyway - this is the first time Foresters have been mentioned. I dunno - get what you like. Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger83 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Uhh, I thought it significantly predated the introduction of the Legacy too... EA81 wagons at least.... Martina Navratilova signed on after Paul Hogan in 2000. Some people actually thought that using the greatest female tennis player ever might be seen as an endorsement of outdoor activities, not indoor activities. But the best Subaru ads ever were the "That's why Cadillacs Drive Subaru," ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tysn Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I forgot about the turbo Forester. Other then being the ultimate lesbaru, they are impressive. Get one with a 5 speed and you will have something. i thought the lesburu was the outback wagon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000outback Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Is there much difference in size between the Legacy/Outback platform and the Forrester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Is there much difference in size between the Legacy/Outback platform and the Forrester. I think the seats are more comfy in the Outback. The cargo space may not be much different, just a taller shape in the forester. take a look at www.cars101.com for weights/dimensions, etc. Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine73 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Is there much difference in size between the Legacy/Outback platform and the Forrester. It seemed to me, at least when looking at a Forester sitting next to an Outback at the dealer, that the space behind the rear seat on the Forester was quite a bit less than on the Outback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burtonsnowman Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Outback = Legacy Forester = Impreza platform (smaller fo' sho'!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixon Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Yeah, if they just took a licking in a fair race....wait...uh....nevermind ;^) Carl If they want to whup my rump roast, or give me a licking, no probs! I can turn them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rweddy Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I always felt it was the Legacy wagons that were - um - more associated with an alternate lifestyle. Seems to me the perception about this predates the introduction of the Forester. Anyway - I wouldn't let it stop me from driving what the h3!! i wanted. Carl Most car sites talk about the forester as the alt. lifestyle choice. http://www.bangkokpost.net/290906_Motoring/29Sep2006_motor004.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destey Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 Yah that turbo forester, 0-60 in like 5.9 seconds, now that's not too shaby compared to other common production cars.quote] Tempting, but the look of the forester gets to me. Probably harder to find in 5spd too. How much power can be squeezed out of the 2.2 turbos from the early 90s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manarius Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 How much power can be squeezed out of the 2.2 turbos from the early 90s? How much money do you want to dump in? I think they're good for up to 400bhp on stock internals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quidam Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Anyway - I wouldn't let it stop me from driving what the h3!! i wanted. Carl I hear you Carl, me either, but people do the strangest things sometimes. It's 1969 and a man I know bought a NEW Chevelle SS. Yellow with a black vinyl top. Well, some people in that community ragged on him about the yellow paint, over, and over, and over. They thought it was weird, sissy...gay? even...whatever. Two weeks later he had it painted blue, no where near as good a paint job as the factory paint either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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