95LEGOBW Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 My local independant Subaru shop, Superior Import in Portland, just did front brakes on my 95 Legacy wagon. In all the time I've owned the car the brakes have never squealed, but with the new pads it squeals a lot, and is getting worse all the time. Superior Import says they used OEM pads and told me there's nothing they can do about the squeal, that I have to live with it. Is that right, do I have to live with it? Any suggestions on what needs to be fixed? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brus brother Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Find a new mechanic. Proper installation using genuine SOA parts as well as shims and anti-squeal grease that comes with the pads has always worked fine for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avk Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Timewise, a proper brake replacement job should consist mostly of cleaning and lubricating the parts. This might be a problem with professional shops as brakes are one of their money-makers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manarius Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Did you break the brakes in correctly? That would cause squeeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95LEGOBW Posted November 28, 2006 Author Share Posted November 28, 2006 Did you break the brakes in correctly? That would cause squeeling. The squealing started shortly after I drove away from the shop, so I don't think break-in was a factor. Also, I did not get any instructions from the shop about breaking in the new breaks. What should they have told me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 no two brands of break pads are the same. What brand did he put in. Also did he use anti squeel shims or antisqueel compaound. i see no reason to jump all over the mechanic about this..... yet. His supplier could have changed brands on him. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setright Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Breaking in: Avoid hard stops for the first 200 miles. Then, once they've mated pad to disc surface, give a good work out to get them hot - and smelly. Then drive for a few miles to cool them back down. It is IMPERATIVE that you do NOT come to a halt when the new pads are smoking hot. So plan your route and don't do it while there's traffic. As for the actual work done, look for a black shims on the pads, these are steel with a hard rubber backing, they kill squeal quite well. If they aren't there: Squeal ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95LEGOBW Posted November 28, 2006 Author Share Posted November 28, 2006 Thanks all for your input. Combining all the comments above, here's my summary. Does this make sense? - Break-in is important. I followed the process recommended here. - Squealing brakes can be avoided - I should not 'have to live with it" - There may be a problem with the brake work, such as shims left off or un-intended use of lower quality pads - I should ask the shop to fix this, checking on the shims & pads Does this make sense? Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destey Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 - There may be a problem with the brake work, such as shims left off or un-intended use of lower quality pads - I should ask the shop to fix this, checking on the shims & pads I just did my brakes and left the anti-squeek spacers out.... and it squeeks. Maybe they left those out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I just did my brakes and left the anti-squeek spacers out.... and it squeeks. Maybe they left those out? Its a common and oh-so-human mistake. I've done it myself. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcspeer Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 The shims are not needed, I haven't used them in years and my car gets about two or three brake jobs a year. (postal del.) Did you have the rotors replaced? I have found this to be one of the main reasons for brake squeal, putting new pads on old rotors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Its a common and oh-so-human mistake.I've done it myself. nipper also common for first timers who don't know any better, or when the shims are crappy and difficult to reinstall. live and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95LEGOBW Posted January 27, 2008 Author Share Posted January 27, 2008 Y'all were correct: there were no shims installed when the front brake pads were replaced on my 95 Legacy. Superior Import in Portland did the work, and told me, at the time, that I would have to live with the squeeling. Live and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brus brother Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Y'all were correct: there were no shims installed when the front brake pads were replaced on my 95 Legacy. Superior Import in Portland did the work, and told me, at the time, that I would have to live with the squeeling. Live and learn. Geepers, you folks out there in "hither, yon" are very patient. You first posted this problem over a year ago:eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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