Phizinza Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 What do you think about this? It would be sitting on 30" Mud Terrains. With a 6" lift and a T-case mod. I'm going to start looking for old rusty (cheap) Brats now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
operose Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 looks sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsutomu Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 omg that thing is lovely. its the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazmataz Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 DUDE!!!! That thing is awesome. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted December 20, 2006 Author Share Posted December 20, 2006 Thank you. I forgot to put a radiator in the hood, but other then that, it's kinda what I would like to build. Apart from my idea about putting this on top of this chassis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 looks like zaps old green brat... and a 6" lift might not be enough for a tcase... pretty sweet, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrap487 Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 thats the subaru to have. I wish I could do bodywork like that. Everything I do will be good, but it will be a lot rougher, less smooth and probably use a bit of metal... But for offroad purposes, it needs a bit more weight in the rear, it isnt supposed to look nice, and it may be tougher... You better build that now that you photoshopped that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted December 20, 2006 Author Share Posted December 20, 2006 and a 6" lift might not be enough for a tcase... I know what you mean. But I've been doing a lot of looking at it and my brother and I figured you could cut away the gearbox and remove the front diff. Then weld new alloy plate on to seal it all up. OR you could dry sump the EJ, move the whole engine and gearbox 6 or so inches back and put the diff under the engine... Both of these would require a fair bit of modification, but both are entirely possible in my brothers workshop. I love welding alloy Only problem I just thought of a couple of minutes ago was using a 6" lift with transfer case means there isn't as much room above the engine for the radiator that I thought there was. But I'm sure I could make it fit. Even if I have to use the radiator in the tray (wouldn't matter much because there isn't much tray left.. I wonder how long I could drive it on road before the cops pull me over... ahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virrdog Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Where exactly is the gas tank sitting? That's the only thing I see that might not fit. Maybe go with a fuel cell in the bed, directly over the rear axle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted December 21, 2006 Author Share Posted December 21, 2006 Where exactly is the gas tank sitting? That's the only thing I see that might not fit. Maybe go with a fuel cell in the bed, directly over the rear axle.That was my thought.. But then my brother said up the compression and run it on gas with a tank in the bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjaben43 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 i know someone who bobed a brat that far and the gas tank was not effected:headbang: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in Bellingham Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I know what you mean. But I've been doing a lot of looking at it and my brother and I figured you could cut away the gearbox and remove the front diff. Then weld new alloy plate on to seal it all up. OR you could dry sump the EJ, move the whole engine and gearbox 6 or so inches back and put the diff under the engine... Both of these would require a fair bit of modification, but both are entirely possible in my brothers workshop. I love welding alloy Only problem I just thought of a couple of minutes ago was using a 6" lift with transfer case means there isn't as much room above the engine for the radiator that I thought there was. But I'm sure I could make it fit. Even if I have to use the radiator in the tray (wouldn't matter much because there isn't much tray left.. I wonder how long I could drive it on road before the cops pull me over... ahah if you raise the engine 2" from stock you could squeeze the 6" , the transfercase will be hangimg down low unless you cut a hole in the floor and stuck it up in the cab a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 the transfercase will be hangimg down low unless you cut a hole in the floor and stuck it up in the cab a bitWhich is what I was thinking.. I figure I should be able to fit the front diff under the EJ if it had a dry sump. And I would be doing a lot of cutting to the car so I may as well just cut for room instead of lifting. You may be asking "why only a 6", so much easier to go with more." The reason why is I want it low as possible with still running 30" tires is lower center of gravity, plus I know it can be done. Nothing wrong with a little modification to mounts, sumps, suspension, crossmembers if it gets what I want (which is a different kind of subie.) I'm looking for a rusty old Brat now... But it might take some time, hard to find cheap brats where I live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy D Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollie715 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I like it ! I was thinking of doing a similar mod, and also like the idea of keeping it low. Raising the engine would help get the diff to fit under, but would not provide for much room above it for the radiator. You would probably need to move the diff forward a few inches to make room for the larger tires to keep them away from the rear of the front fenderwells with only a 6" lift. The front part of the fenderwells would need to be cut out extra. Also moving the front diff forward may require a little reworking of how the strut towers mount up to the body. I was also thinking of moving the transfercase back far enough so that when you cut the big hole and raised it higher, it wouldn't be right between the seats and be too wide at that point. I imagined a taller narrow hump between the seats which would be where the two forward driveshafts would be. As for cutting out the bottom of the original tranny or running a dry sump, I think the low point under the flywheel might be the big problem, and I don't think you would gain much there unless you move the diff forward as well as the engine/tranny rearward. It could be major work. Just ideas so far. I will let you know if I make any progress towards it. Rollie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted December 24, 2006 Author Share Posted December 24, 2006 I like it !I was thinking of doing a similar mod, and also like the idea of keeping it low. Raising the engine would help get the diff to fit under, but would not provide for much room above it for the radiator. It will go in the back with the feul cell/LPG tank. Also moving the front diff forward may require a little reworking of how the strut towers mount up to the body. Use the 85+ control arms, plus custom radius rods and you will get the hub 2-3" forwards. Also the radius is much better so when you have a wheel at full lock it doesn't have positive camber. You don't need to touch the top. I would use custom extended struts instead of using strut extension blocks. You would probably need to move the diff forward a few inches to make room for the larger tires to keep them away from the rear of the front fenderwells with only a 6" lift. The front part of the fenderwells would need to be cut out extra.Doing what I said just above would make mounting the diff further forwards even better. and Would fix the tire on fender wall issue. As for cutting out the bottom of the original tranny or running a dry sump, I think the low point under the flywheel might be the big problem, and I don't think you would gain much there unless you move the diff forward as well as the engine/tranny rearward. It could be major work. This wasn't ment to be a simple mod Thinking on color... Obviously I wouldn't do this to my almost rust free red one. So I will be looking for a very cheap one. Which isn't going to have good paint. So, what colors do people think would look good? Crazy stripes? One color? Pearl color? Whats your thoughts. Check on my site for my "other photochops" and look at my previous ideas for paint jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooinater Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subaru_Mechanic Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 i odnt know about the newer brats be my 79 has a 1' wide x 2.5' long x 1.2' space right in the middle of the driverside underbody. thats a good spot for a fuel cell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjaben43 Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 what colors do people think would look good? Crazy stripes? One color? Pearl color? Whats your thoughts. . what is the official color of kickass? whoohoo orange or someting/mabey red with fames. all i di go to the spray paint isle and see what catches my eye:headbang: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryry46d9 Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 why not pull a jerry and mod a hatch (hatchbrat) seen his and loved it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esh Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 do you know whos brat is this? this is not a photoshop work http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/photos/showphoto.php?photo=476&si=differential&what=allfields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in Bellingham Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 do you know whos brat is this? this is not a photoshop work http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/photos/showphoto.php?photo=476&si=differential&what=allfields yes its the guy that has it in his album Adam from Oregon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverstream Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Daaaaamn bobbed tailed brats is awesome thinking of boobing my brat after the yearly inspection and hoping they wont notice it next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HATCHY Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 My buddy just got a brat awhile back. That looks like it sat in the salt water for a year. Really rusty. even on the frame, and the pass door seems liks its going to fall off lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 why not pull a jerry and mod a hatch (hatchbrat) seen his and loved it I'll let you in on a little secret... Australia didn't get EA81 hatchs there is 3 that I know of in the country and they go for about three times more then a brat. Oh, one of them got crushed by accident, so make that two left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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