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I dont know what to do! I just spent hours, in the cold, putting that F*CKING piece of crap together and it ran beautifuly smooth for like 45 seconds and then water/exhaust started pouring out of the EGR bung, it ran like ************ stumbling, its POURING coolant out from somewhere under the intake now towards the back passenger side, the thermostat housing its leaking teribly, im ************ing screwed, i hate this car with a passion, i swear to go im going to ************ing set it on fire, im so infuriated right now, im never gonna have the piece of ************ fixed

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i didnt rush it or anything, i took my time, and triple checked everything, what the hell, the stupid Thermostat housing bolts stripped, the stupid egr wont thread, i dont see any coolant hoses in that area to be pouring out coolant unless the stupid intake gasket didnt seal or somthing, but i dont understand, theres none being burnt in the exhaust!

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Ah ha, its the damn Thermostat housing afterall, its SPEWING coolant like 5 feet at 3k rpms, lol, its really bad, one of the damn bolts stripped the threads, ahh damnit, i got a new gasket, gasket maker junk, and longer bolts in hope that there might be useable threads left. The poor running is most likley the EGR, but its still doing its really low idle and backfire, ahg WHY is it doing that crap. i dont understand it, new gaskets, no vac leaks nothing! One of the spark plugs wires shocked me tho....like when i touched it, thats not good might need new wires then right.

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its the exhaust pipe itself that threads into the EGR, i cannot for the life of me get it straght so the nut will thread in, its like my Grand prixs fuel lines all over again, talk about a nightmare. but man it ran SOOOO smooth afor that 45 seconds, lol.

 

I may do the nut and bolt thing, the one closest to the front of the car is still good, its the back one, the one that goes all the way through (luckily i guess) so if a longer bolt wont catch some threads ill go with the nut and bolt setup

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i didnt rush it or anything, i took my time, and triple checked everything, what the hell, the stupid Thermostat housing bolts stripped, the stupid egr wont thread, i dont see any coolant hoses in that area to be pouring out coolant unless the stupid intake gasket didnt seal or somthing, but i dont understand, theres none being burnt in the exhaust!

 

If it stripped then you put it in too tight, and the EGR will thread right in if you do it before you put the manifold bolts in. Both of those items are common sense, and neither are "stupid". It's an inanimate object - and as much as people like to think the car is out to get them, most also realize that this simply isn't within the realm of possibility. The car has lasted over 20 years before it encountered you - it's a tired, old, turbo, and by default that means it's going to have needs. If you can't fulfill them, then pass it along to someone that can.

 

It's a poor mechanic that blames his tools and equipment.

 

You have how many cars that don't drive?? :-\

 

GD

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I would use a Heli Coil or Thead Sert... those 2 brands wont let you down.. I believe Heli Coils are like $30 for a set in napa.. it comes with instructions... and some coils. You just drill it out and tap it using the given tap... and insert the coils with the provided tool... Thread Sert is better but I dont know where to get them!! I hope it helps... The bolt thing will work.. but my favorite saying is "if its worth doing, its worth doing right".

 

Dont dis the EA82 i know it can be a pos but... poop happens :banghead:

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WOW i have some BAD Luck, i tried the whole nut and bolt thing....that cant work theres no room the head of the nut will hit the casting. Then i tried to tap it up to the next size.....the tap went 3/4 of the way in and then snapped off....hah wow. its sticking out abit, so out comes the manifold again, lol, i guess its ok to reuse the gaskets they were put on for like, a day, and the car was ran 1 minute. *sigh* Good experience, just like how i had to redo the timing belts 3 times, im a pro at that now. and the water pump 4 times, i can do the waterpump in 15 minutes, lol. (BTW water pump was defective, and the belts, first time the Main seal didnt seat right, 2nd time they were a tooth off, and the 3rd and final time was the tensioner wasnt tight enough on them.)

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You simply just have to calm down and relax. Its an EA82 Turbo. Its going to a b*tch to get running. I just replaced the EA82T in my XT, and after I dropped it in, I had numerous problems. All were my fault. I fixed most of them, and it runs smooth (apart from the ginormous exhaust leak).

 

If you're stripping threads that badly, you're not doing things right. The T-Stat bolts are always a PITA, but if you take your time, things won't strip. Use liberal amounts of PB Blaster to remove the bolts, then brush the bolts off and use anti-seize to install them. This will keep from stripping out the T-Stat housing.

 

The EGR pipe is a PITA to get right, but if you take your time, you can get it threaded.

 

If at any time, you think you are cross threading something, stop! I have to fix someone's mistake on my spark plugs on the turbo wagon. Plug #2 is obviously cross threaded.

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yea i was SUPER carful when i did the plugs, i carfully hand threaded them, made sure the went in smooth and staight, really slow, lol. I dunno whats up with all these bolts, i know i didnt strip the EGR threads, but the freakin thermostat housing has NO threads left, i mean it looked like a smooth hole, lol, the other one, towards the fronts just fine tho. SHould i get that tap out and just continue to tap it with a new one? Ill take more precaution this time.

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yea i was SUPER carful when i did the plugs, i carfully hand threaded them, made sure the went in smooth and staight, really slow, lol. I dunno whats up with all these bolts, i know i didnt strip the EGR threads, but the freakin thermostat housing has NO threads left, i mean it looked like a smooth hole, lol, the other one, towards the fronts just fine tho. SHould i get that tap out and just continue to tap it with a new one? Ill take more precaution this time.

 

For what it's worth, (probably not much) I learned an emergency fix for striped T-stat threads yesterday. Here's the story:

 

I had been thinking to change to the hotter T-stat for weeks, as morning here now are in the low teens or zero's. Problems with over cooling. I had some nagging memory of troubles last spring when I had put in the cooler one, but couldn't remember details, just that I was feeling reluctant. So yesterday a.m., I pulled the housing, cleaned the mating surfaces, dropped in the new OEM T-stat, gooped the surfaces, as I began tightening the bolts, I remembered-------yup, nearly stripped threads on the passenger side. I had barely got it to hold last time. It's a wonder it did. But somehow, it had held together all summer and fall. Not this time.

 

So---------no appropriate tap on hand, no wheels, no dough, what to do. I looked close, and saw that the holes are not blind, but go on through the flange of the intake manifold. Maybe I could find a longer bolt and just use a nut. But the hole in the manifold flange leaves zero room for the head of a bolt, no room for a nut. Hmm, grind the head of a bolt custom to fit? Maybe. First I drilled out what was left of the stripped threads, then

 

I found a bolt right size, and length, ground the head of it off on two sides, (roughly 90 degree's), stuck it in from underneath, reasembled, and I'm good to go. I could take it apart later and tap to a bigger thread, but I may wind up just leaving it. FWIW

 

Pyro

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For what it's worth, (probably not much)

 

So---------no appropriate tap on hand, no wheels, no dough, what to do. I looked close, and saw that the holes are not blind, but go on through the flange of the intake manifold. Maybe I could find a longer bolt and just use a nut. But the hole in the manifold flange leaves zero room for the head of a bolt, no room for a nut. Hmm, grind the head of a bolt custom to fit? Maybe. First I drilled out what was left of the stripped threads, then

 

I found a bolt right size, and length, ground the head of it off on two sides, (roughly 90 degree's), stuck it in from underneath, reasembled, and I'm good to go. I could take it apart later and tap to a bigger thread, but I may wind up just leaving it. FWIW

 

Pyro

 

 

I already said that, but i guess he didn't want to listen :rolleyes:

 

Its great when things can be fixed like that, most of the time when you strip something it can't be fixed so easily.

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