WoodsWagon Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Just before I toasted my valve, I had my car up on the scale at the scrapyard. 3,008lbs, 3/4 tank of gas, some light recovery gear in the back. It's an EA82 wagon. What do these weigh stock and how much have I added to it. 3k lbs seems like a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 EA82's aren't light - that's the reason they ride so much smoother than the EA81's with basically the same suspension. Were you in it when you weighed it? I was recently at the scrap yard too, and my Brat with me in it, was 2240 pounds (totally empty except for me). It's currently sporting the heavier EA82 and a 5 speed D/R but is otherwise stock. I'm about 200 even, so that puts the Brat at 2040 lbs?!? I really don't think it's accurate. But on the other hand, 90 HP moves the Brat at a pretty amazing clip. Really pretty amazing what 16 HP over stock will do for a light rig. What I think both of us are expereiencing is the innacuracy of a truck scale at very low weights (in comparison to what they normally experience). The scales at these places aren't really calibrated all that well I suspect. They aren't intrested in the *actual* weight so much as the difference between when you come in, and when you leave. When all you care about is the change in weight, you don't need it to be totally accurate - if you are 500 pounds off it doesn't matter so much - the difference between 1500 and 2000 is the same as the difference between 2000 and 2500. I wouldn't be surprised with a scale of that size if it didn't register at all with you just standing on it. At any rate, our simple tests are by no means conclusive, but I suspect your's is a little high, and mine is a little low. I really don't think an EA82 wagon is 1000 lbs heavier than my Brat. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durania Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 EA82's aren't light - that's the reason they ride so much smoother than the EA81's with basically the same suspension. Were you in it when you weighed it? I was recently at the scrap yard too, and my Brat with me in it, was 2240 pounds (totally empty except for me). It's currently sporting the heavier EA82 and a 5 speed D/R but is otherwise stock. I'm about 200 even, so that puts the Brat at 2040 lbs?!? I really don't think it's accurate. But on the other hand, 90 HP moves the Brat at a pretty amazing clip. Really pretty amazing what 16 HP over stock will do for a light rig. What I think both of us are expereiencing is the innacuracy of a truck scale at very low weights (in comparison to what they normally experience). The scales at these places aren't really calibrated all that well I suspect. They aren't intrested in the *actual* weight so much as the difference between when you come in, and when you leave. When all you care about is the change in weight, you don't need it to be totally accurate - if you are 500 pounds off it doesn't matter so much - the difference between 1500 and 2000 is the same as the difference between 2000 and 2500. I wouldn't be surprised with a scale of that size if it didn't register at all with you just standing on it. At any rate, our simple tests are by no means conclusive, but I suspect your's is a little high, and mine is a little low. I really don't think an EA82 wagon is 1000 lbs heavier than my Brat. GD 100% Correct. A couple days ago, someone who couldn't add too well figured up the combined weight of some bearings there were suppose to go out. Instead they figured up wrong and came to be 1500~ over! Ended up costing the company $10,000 extra. We cover cost of shipping on most things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoobGoob Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 I was recently at the scrap yard too, and my Brat with me in it, was 2240 pounds (totally empty except for me). It's currently sporting the heavier EA82 and a 5 speed D/R but is otherwise stock. GD my poor old FIRST soob in the back of your brat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 I got $32 for it! It will live on as a chevy or something probably. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodsWagon Posted December 23, 2006 Author Share Posted December 23, 2006 I was out of the car. I don't know, it's got a heavier engine, heavier wheels, lots of weight in the front bumper and winch, and the lift kit weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgd73 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 steel is tricky. I would love to know how a guage you can carry around as a sheet, once installed, with the cars angles gains weigh over its pre-install weight.... I learned this with race cars. A simple rod at a few lbs in a sweet spot on the car was suddenly 500lbs heavier on the scale. soobs do the same. there are many channels that stay air tight, they have weight. physics no doubt about it. Suspension playing with the scale can perfectly jackhammer it down to heavy. Tighten the soobs back end suspension, watch what happens on the sscales (they get lighter, the tighter you make it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 steel is tricky. I would love to know how a guage you can carry around as a sheet, once installed, with the cars angles gains weigh over its pre-install weight.... I learned this with race cars. A simple rod at a few lbs in a sweet spot on the car was suddenly 500lbs heavier on the scale. soobs do the same. there are many channels that stay air tight, they have weight. physics no doubt about it. Suspension playing with the scale can perfectly jackhammer it down to heavy. Tighten the soobs back end suspension, watch what happens on the sscales (they get lighter, the tighter you make it). Weight is weight. Period. You can't change the weight of a car by adjusting the suspension. Physics does NOT work that way. Can you just leave please? GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodaka Rider Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I dunno. One time I tightened my belt like two extra notches. I SWEAR I weighed less that day. Until I tried to breath, and had to let the belt out again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbobdole Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I dunno. One time I tightened my belt like two extra notches. I SWEAR I weighed less that day. Until I tried to breath, and had to let the belt out again. LOL:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted December 25, 2006 Share Posted December 25, 2006 Can you just leave please? GD I give this thread a day before the mods stuff it in the naughty box. My last car (honda) got weighed at one of them cop stops, came out at 1400kgs.....whats that in the old money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted December 25, 2006 Share Posted December 25, 2006 ........ they ride so much smoother than the EA81's with basically the same suspension. Absolutely correct.. except for half of the suspension being completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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