SoobGoob Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 when im exceding speeds of 60mph my soob starts to swerve and jump around. was running without a swaybar for about 2 months. put it on and its a little better but just not how my last one was. and i am running turbo suspension on front drivers side. its a loyale. has anyone ever encountered this problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 am I reading correctly?? you have different suspension parts on one side than on the other??? that in itself could be your problem. BOTH sides should have the same set up to keep things equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subaru_dude Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 or if that doesn't fix your problem, could be ball-joints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldDiggerRoo Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Is it windy there? I know my hatch is extremely effected by the wind, even from other vehicles at that speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooziewhatsit Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I had a problem in my 91 loyale when both ball joints were shot. Hitting the gas would make it swerve one direction, and letting off the gas it go the opposite direction. Not sure if it'll help in your case, but thought I'd throw it out there. -dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoobGoob Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 well im not sure if the suspensions are the same or not. but came from same style engine car. ill look into the ball joints. it came with the different suspension thats how i got it so cheap... or how GD got it so cheap and i got it from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Also check the wheel alignment. The other stuff mentioned needs to be checked first, before bothering with alignmnet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyewdall Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Take a look underneath for anything obvious -- like a bent radius rod that's holding one front wheel an inch or two farther back than the other side. That completely screws up the alignment. I know it sounds like common sense to check that first.......but its possible to overlook it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 short of the suspension (strut) differences, yeah, check the ball joints, also tierod ends...jack the car up enough to get the tire clear of the ground, grab it and try to wiggle - side to side and top to bottom - if you have movement you have problems top to bottom will usually mean a ball joint - side to side is tierod end - usually, not always... if possible have a helper - one wiggles the wheel, the other is looking for where the movement occurs... check both sides! my personal thought is if you are changing ball joint or tierod end on one side, might as well do the other at the same time - if one is failing the other wont be far behind and you will be changing it soon anyway. New parts on one side will stress old parts on the other side and they will fail much more quickly - best to keep things equal. also, another simple "doh! why didnt i think of that?" item - check your tire pressure. a low tire will cause handling issues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoobGoob Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 thanks heartless ill look into that. i know pressure is good, so thats out. im about to leave on vacation for 4 days so when i get back ill look into what you said and let you know. later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoobGoob Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Is it windy there? I know my hatch is extremely effected by the wind, even from other vehicles at that speed. its usually not windy but thats excatly what it feels like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I switched to 185-70 r13 tires from the 175-70s that came on my car.. and noticed a great deal of the above 60mph instability vanished. I had experienced it, and could not believe the car might be actually THAT sensitive to wind.. but it made it go away for me. The question is, are we perceiving the same thing? I think I know what you are talking about, and I think I have come to the conclusion that the skinnier tires (175s) allowed my sedan to be blown about by the tiniest breath of wind (okay 10mph or so, but thats not much.) Of course, you should make sure that your steering and suspension are in good repair.. the HTKYSA book has a good breakdown on how to check it all out for yourself, or you could just take it to a mechanic and ask for a front end alignment, and see what they say. Don't necessarily take their WORD for it, but see what they say. Or you could just try picking up a pair of used 185-70r13s sometime (i guess not during winter? i dont know snow) and see if that makes a difference.. then go all four.. buying used tires makes it a cheaper thing to go back on, you arent 250-300 bucks into a set of tires to find out you dont like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodsWagon Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Another thing that can cause that is the radius rod bushings. They get old, cracked and loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Another thing that can cause that is the radius rod bushings. They get old, cracked and loose. a very good suggestion for checking into. daeron - i run the stock 175's on my wagon and dont notice the cross winds nearly as much in it as i do in the coupe we have (also with 175's) the wagon has 244K on the clock, the coupe only 136K - the coupe is VERY touchy with a cross wind - always a treat to drive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 soobgoob: is your car a sedan? apparently, the body style may have an impact on this, according to heartless. Im sure all of my body rust doesn't help my aerodynamic situation much... the other side looks about the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 soobgoob: is your car a sedan? apparently, the body style may have an impact on this, according to heartless. No - his is a wagon. Rust free left coast edition:) It's probably suspension related. Have to take a look at the front bushings and such. The body only has about 150k on it.... GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 No - his is a wagon. Rust free left coast edition:) It's probably suspension related. Have to take a look at the front bushings and such. The body only has about 150k on it.... GD I still vote that the 185 tires would help. I had a very similar issue, and i simply could not believe it was as simple as wind.. but it sure went away with wider tires. not that there arent a whole slew of places in the suspension that this kinda crap might come up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Being a 4WD, his is already using 185's. Pretty new one's IIRC too. Anyway, they are the same tires he had on his other body before the swap and were fine there.... GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Well!!! *crickets*chirping* I'll shaddap then :-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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