[HTi]Savage Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Ok so we have the lift almost done in the front. the EA81 engine crossmember is mounted in the brat w/ the 4in lift block. I had to use the EA71 tranny crossmember because the EA81 mounts totally different. So now I have to figure out how to mount the 4sp/dr to it. Then on top of that with the EA81 suspension the leading rods are about 4 in too short. So iam wondering if any one has any ideas on how to lenthen them. I would use the EA71 rods but there welded to there control arms. other than that things are going smoothly, so any input is very welcome. Lawrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratsrus1 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Hi This is Jerry, been there done that on an 81 brat. I built a 6 inch lift for it i also installed a EA81 with a 5 speed dual range tranny. The rear i use the 84 brat rear end because it was alot ez er to install with the 6 inch lift. Aslo rear disc brakes is a must have. Thanks Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Savage Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 was the 6 in lift very different from the 4. did u have to mess with the leading rods. Iam using the EA81 front and rear suspension. but keeping the EA71 tranny crossmember. now they dont reach. I have some ideas but wanted to see what enyone els came up with. tell me how u did the rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I put EA81 control arms into my '79 4wd wagon because I did a full EA81 suspension/brake swap into it. I actually made new leading rods and welded them to the EA81 control arms. I made them the exact same length as the original EA71 leading rods but I use some round stock that was a little larger (not much) and tapped the end of it to a standard thread pitch. I have a couple pics... http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1302458350067339125NjfalY http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1302458386067339125UIqgYM http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1302458404067339125HAIQVL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Savage Posted January 26, 2007 Author Share Posted January 26, 2007 Thanks dude. Yea I was thinking that or cut the EA81 rods then extend them with some square tube and weld the ************ out of them. Do u have any ideas on how to mount the 4 sp/dr to the EA71 tranny crossmember. Thanks Lawrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 hey what kinda springs and struts are those on the wagon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 hey what kinda springs and struts are those on the wagon? Stock EA81 struts and springs with 3 coils cut form the springs in the front and reclocked torsion bars in the rear to make it sit fairly low:-p As far as mounting the tranny, you might want to shoot Hondasucks a PM since he did an EA81 and d/r 4-speed into his old '77 wagon. He'd know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratsrus1 Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Hi This is Jerry, forget the 4 speed and install a 5 speed you have to make brackets any ways. I used some 1 1/2 inch angle iron and welded it to the EA71 cross member and drill holes where i needed them to be for the 5 speed mounts. Then cut the shift linkage to fit, 5 speed is installed. Thanks Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spigma01 Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 There should be holes near the rear of the 4sp d/r that that fit the mounts. Just move them to that position and it works perfect. Sorry no pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Savage Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share Posted January 27, 2007 Yes I was working on the car this morning and figured that out when I compaired the two trannies. Thanks for the input. Lawrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Range Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Why don't you just keep the entire ea71 front end and just lift it with blocks, no welding required, that's what spigma's 3" lifted wagon had, stock front and gen 2 rear torsion tube... That's what I'm doing to my next gen 1 lift... (Ryan your pickle's rear end will live again, poor thing:rolleyes: ) anyways, for my gen 2 front in a gen 1 brat, the radius rods were sleeved and lenghtened a bunch to use the gen 1 trans x-member, and like Spigma said the trans mount holes for the 4spd are there, just don't forget to cut a hole for the linkage and adjust it for the 4" lift. keep the ea71 struts in front they are ~1.5" taller than the ea81 stuff, and in the rear, well go shopping at the junkyard for some custom stuff. definitly get rear disc brakes. your using the gen 2 rear end right? what motor/trans I kinda wish I went 4" on my brat, but not on the offcamber sections, welcome to the lifted gen 1 crowd, there arn't many out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Savage Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 Well the lift in the front is almost done. And yes I am using the gen 2 rear end. The reason or one of the reasons Im using the EA81 front is because when the gen 2 rear end is in the with of the wheels will be alittle wider than in the front. I am using the EA81 engine and 4 sp/dr out of my hatch. We used some 4x3 square tube to lift the front and offset the holes in the front to accomidate the EA81 engine cross member. Its tapered in the front but the holes line up in the rear. All thats left in the front is the strut tower lift blocks and extending the leading rods. thanks alot guies for the input, keep it comming. Thanks Lawrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s'ko Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 post up some pics. Sounds like you are headed in the right direction. BW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Savage Posted February 2, 2007 Author Share Posted February 2, 2007 I'll try to get some up by this weekend. we have some pics but we just need to figure out how to put them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 what all would i need in order to put a lift onto my wagon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Savage Posted February 3, 2007 Author Share Posted February 3, 2007 If its ur gen one, than decide how high ur going then obtain some longer bolts for the trans x member. figure out if ur making the lift ur self or buying one. then u will probably need a gen 2 rear suspension. pain in the rump roast to lift the stock rear end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsoobdude Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Savage']If its ur gen one' date=' figure out if ur making the lift ur self or buying one.[/quote']I thought no one made a lift kit for the gen1s regardless of rear suspension setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Dain Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 (Savage L.A.'s) EA71-81 Brat Lift Project pics... check 'em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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