lorysloyale Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 I recently bought a 92 loyale 2wd with bad cvs. After reading and reading the forum I thought that I could fix it myself. I was wrong.. I need to know how many splines the DOJ is supposed to have on EA82s. The new shafts the shop sold me have 25, at least on the shaft I have not yet installed. Now to the problem. Everything seemed to go together right, and I'm ready to do a test drive. I backed out of the driveway fine so I thought things were ok but its kinda downhill. I drove around the corner and started to go up a hill and heard a bang and then some grinding. After rolling to a stop I got out and looked and the DOJ is nearly off the stub axle. The stub axle has scrapes on the splines where I can see them. Is my transmission totally hosed? Did I manage to get the wrong axles from this company? I tried searching but there is no definitive answer to how many splines the DOJ should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeshoup Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 You should have 23 spine DOJs. As long as the splines on the stub aren't completely worn down, I'd say you were fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 I think it's 23 splines, but then again I can be wrong, I havent done an axle in over 2 years... If the axles do fit properly, then you're good. Did you put that pin back in the DOJ, by the tranny? If not, same thing can happen.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Just install the correct 23 spline axles. You may need to use a triangle file on the splines to clean them up but it should be alright. It should have been pretty obvious that it wasn't fitting tight enough when you assembled it. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorysloyale Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 I put the pin back in by the tranny. I think it was one of the hardest parts of the job till I figured out I could spin the axle to hammer it in from above. Aren't open diffs great? Anyway, I bought two cv shafts from the same place, and the one I have not installed had the 25 splines so I figure this one is the same. I probably can't fix it until tuesday and that burns me up. I just really hope those scrapes I saw weren't too deep. Anyone in washington have some used axles lying around? If so maybe I can fix it tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorysloyale Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 Just install the correct 23 spline axles. You may need to use a triangle file on the splines to clean them up but it should be alright. It should have been pretty obvious that it wasn't fitting tight enough when you assembled it. GD I'm sorry, this was my first axle replacement so I have no basis for how tight it should have felt. The old axle slid off the stub axle pretty easy, and from the outside the new axle looked like it was fitting just fine. I'm just too trusting. I thought that the shop that builds these would get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyewdall Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I'm just too trusting. I thought that the shop that builds these would get it right. No, not necessarily. I usually get the wrong parts for my subaru, and that's buying alot of them from a subaru-only shop.... Funny how so many major things are interchangeable on subarus, yet the simple things get you. It took me three tries to get the right fan belt last week -- there are three different length alternator belts within an inch of each other, that an '89 wagon might have depending on what model air condition it had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorysloyale Posted February 1, 2007 Author Share Posted February 1, 2007 Ok, this story keeps getting longer. I finally had time earlier this week to take the wrong shaft off and get it swapped for the right one. They gave me a reman, saying it was new. I really had no other choice than to take it, but I'm definitely going back there to show them the threads missing on the end of the shaft. I want some of my money back! So I took the right shaft home and began putting it in, and what a difference on the install! I had to slide my leg under the other side of the car and push on DOJ with as much strength as my legs had to get it to slide into the hub. Thats with pushing the floating steel spacer out of the way (I had a helper this time). The shaft was finally on the hub, and then I went to work on the messed up splines on the tranny. Long story short, it is finally on the car. Now my situation is the roll pin will not go in all the way, its about 3/4 of an inch out still. Could there be some sort of alignment issue on the other end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 You have the splines lined up 180 degrees out. You it only lines up one way - 180 degrees will look close, but it's about 1/2 spline off. You need to turn the cup 180 degrees and reinsert the pin. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 You have the splines lined up 180 degrees out. You it only lines up one way - 180 degrees will look close, but it's about 1/2 spline off. You need to turn the cup 180 degrees and reinsert the pin. GD agreed. but at least you got the right one this time :-\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorysloyale Posted February 2, 2007 Author Share Posted February 2, 2007 I know its on the right direction, I looked at how the splines lined up with both the holes on the stub axle and the DOJ. Before I put the pin in I could see right through the hole to the other side, and there was nothing in the way. What I mean to ask is if there is another way it could be out of alignment, like maybe can it tip or something? I might just be having trouble getting momentum to my swings. Remember, the pin is almost all the way in, it just has a little left to go. I think that if I had the wrong direction to begin with, I couldn't even get the pin in beyond the DOJ. Also, I made sure to put the pin in through the beveled side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef_tim Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 There is a slight bevel on the stub too. that is how you can tell that the axle is on the correct way. As stated above, it will look like it is right, but it is deciving. Give the 180º spin a try, you might be surprised. Best, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samneric Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 There is a slight bevel on the stub too. that is how you can tell that the axle is on the correct way. As stated above, it will look like it is right, but it is deciving. Give the 180º spin a try, you might be surprised. Best, Tim ...and if that doesn't work, I usually find the BFH trick works splendidly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorysloyale Posted February 2, 2007 Author Share Posted February 2, 2007 Thanks for all the help everyone, the axle is in! Turns out I just needed more room to swing the sledge. I did manage to get it almost all the way in from below the car, but finished the job from above with a few extensions and a tiny socket, which gave its life for the cause. I just wish there wasn't an exhaust pipe going right below the pin or I would have used a jack with some metal thing to push it in. That and the starter right above. I'm driving her around today and she's starting to click a tiny bit on the other side, but I know I have more time there. This seems to have solved the shuddering problem on acceleration. Now its time to chase down the various oil leaks. I'm going to start with the areas I can see, like the valve cover on the drivers side and possibly the oil filter? I also have an oil pan gasket ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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