Gravityman Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Can anyone tell me whether or not this is a R160 LSD or open diff. FYI both axle shafts spin the same direction. Is that because of rust or dirt build-up between the spider gears? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baccaruda Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 that's an open diff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 oh yea, definitely open... an LSD looks like this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 cool pic's, never seen the difference in the guts before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravityman Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Are you sure? This is a pain! I just ordered it off of Ebay for $188 shipped. A little high for even an LSD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodsWagon Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 You got raped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank B Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Yea, you shouldn't have paid more than $50 shipped for an open diff. Did the seller list it as an LSD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravityman Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 :lol: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :lol: Wow sorry about the little trick but I didnt just dupe all of you but I freaked out also. Belive it or not, the proof is in the pudding...eerr I mean diff. When I received the diff yesterday I swore up and down that it was a OPEN diff but both axles turned the same direction. So to live up to my standard (if you dont already know that I like to take anything and everything apart just for fun), yep I pulled the diff apart to see for sure that it was indeed a Viscous Coupled LSD. Supposedly this is a very rare LSD and they only appeared in impreza's for a short period of time. The couplers are held in the middle of the ring gear. This is the housing and sideplate which houses the couplers. A closer look at the coupler disks and rings. Now the disks installed into the housing. Everything reassembled. I spent about an hour and a half trying to figure out the best way to reinstall the coupler disks by trial and error seeing how no one online wants to makeup a writeup on this issue. (wait I just did:-\ ). So I am flippin happy about this awsome find and that it didnt turn out to be an OPEN dud. :clap: :headbang: Sorry guys! I got you, and you call yourself experts:rolleyes: , just kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry DeMoss Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Sorry guys! I got you, and you call yourself experts:rolleyes: , just kidding. Some may say that they developed a heart murmor from that! Nice going! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Hmmm. I've got a viscous lsd in the 91 T-Leg. I was wondering what it looked like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 crazy, the one we pulled from my buddies donor t-leg didn't look like that. it looked like the old ones where you can't see anything inside it... you learn something every day, nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravityman Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 Hmmm. I've got a viscous lsd in the 91 T-Leg. I was wondering what it looked like. I am guessing that it probably doesnt look like this one but very similar seeing that this is a rare diff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorManzImpreza Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 doesn't the VLSD have a special liquid that those plates are immersed in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravityman Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 Yea, I am not totally sure what the liquid is but is smells like honey and runs like cold molasses. They were already pretty well coated so I didnt feel the need to recoat them... and I had no clue where to find the grease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 I am guessing that it probably doesnt look like this one but very similar seeing that this is a rare diff. Only one way to find out... Do you know what year or anything that diff came out of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodsWagon Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Yea, I am not totally sure what the liquid is but is smells like honey and runs like cold molasses. They were already pretty well coated so I didnt feel the need to recoat them... and I had no clue where to find the grease. How much "grease" ran out? That's what actually produces the drag when it heats up, so if their only coated in it, and not immersed in the viscous fluid, that diff wont work well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondasucks Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Some legacy turbos had a standard clutch type LSD, others had the viscous. The only problem with the viscous is they take like seven spins of one axle to fully lock.. (Same with the viscous center diff on the legacies, I got a tire off teh ground on my 91 once and it spun and then the coupling caught and I rocketed up the driveway lol..) You should be able to get the silcone-based fluid @ the dealership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Looking at the VERY first pic...thats definatly a VLSD. But...we already know that with all the other posts. The VLSD is extremely common. Found on ALL WRX's, optional on outbacks, standard on newer outbacks, standard on ALL 04+ Turbo cars (Baja, Forester, Legacy, Outback). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Too bad they suck off-road worse than a normal LSD (which also suck). Good for rally and street perhaps. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Too bad they suck off-road worse than a normal LSD (which also suck). Good for rally and street perhaps. GD Yeah, welded diff for the off road. His brat probably won't see that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravityman Posted March 23, 2007 Author Share Posted March 23, 2007 Yeah, welded diff for the off road. His brat probably won't see that though. Dont say that, what do you think the useless open diff i am pulling out of the XT6 is going to be used for? The VLSD is extremely common. I understand this but I thought it was mainly the other fully enclosed pumpkin style LSD that are more readly avalible. I figured that this style VLSD was less common, hence everyone thought it was open even though the signs pointed to LSD. How much "grease" ran out? That's what actually produces the drag when it heats up, so if their only coated in it, and not immersed in the viscous fluid, that diff wont work well. Well there was quite a bit of fluid, they were pretty much caked in it. I have never rebuilt one of these before so I couldnt tell you if it is actually the correct amount but it certenly seems like it should be fine. If I have any problems with it I will do like Hondasucks said and pickup some from the dealership. Do you know what year or anything that diff came out of? All I know is what the guy that I purchased it from said, "an Impreza". From the picture that was listed on ebay it had stub axles from a datsun with the 4 axle studs. I assume that someone did the swap from the impreza into the datsun 510 and then sold the diff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbobdole Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Too bad they suck off-road worse than a normal LSD (which also suck). Good for rally and street perhaps. GD My LSD works great off road... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 My LSD works great off road... You only think that because you haven't experienced a welded diff. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 My LSD works great off road... mine does too, i totally dig it and it suites my purposes perfectly. "offroad" means different things to everyone. for myself (and i suppose phil) it's light enough duty offroading that our LSD's are all we need. i don't do trail rides or rock crawling. when i need to drive through snow or up a mountain for hunting i have no problems, but i'm just doing it for purely functional reasons, not as a hobby...so im not pushing the limits like i would imagine the off road guys are. i've always wondered how they pop the rear pins of the axles out of those welded diffs as i have not removed an XT6 rear axle without dropping the rear diff. not sure if that is rust related or geometry related? anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 i've always wondered how they pop the rear pins of the axles out of those welded diffs as i have not removed an XT6 rear axle without dropping the rear diff. not sure if that is rust related or geometry related? anyone know? Geometry mostly. With a bit of suspension lift you can pull the axle without unbolting anything. Stock EA81's and EA82's require unbolting the shock mount. It's the lift that lets us do it without taking anything apart. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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