crazy D Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 so ive seen it before, a carbed ej22...does this mean if you swapped it into an older roo. does this mean not having to deal with the ecu codes?...does it run more power? does anybody make this manifolds?...please tell me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratsrus1 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Hey D This is Jerry, come to the show and i will show you a 2.2 intake that will fit a holley 4 barrel on it. For this set up you will need a 82 escort dissy. Also with set up there no ECU it is old school very simple. Need more answers call me 1-509-952-2855 Thanks Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy D Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 ill be there man...3rd show in a row baby!!!!! oh and congrats onnyour 1,000 th post. wooooohooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobjr94 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 I would think the cost would be much more to get an intake fabricated than hooking up a ecu. Most of your other problems of swapping to an older car would be the same. I wouldnt think a carb would make any more power or people would be swapping them all the time. In a street driven car at low rpms it could even loose power because the larger intake runners on ej manifolds are ment for air only, the fuel mixture may be moving to slow to keep the air & fuel mixed properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waimaks Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 There is such a thing as a carbed ej18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobjr94 Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 If you read the old school forums everyone is talking about swapping to fuel injection and getting rid of carbs. You can do it but I think it would be easier do the whole. Im looking for a wrecked legacy now to do a swap into my brat, Ill keep the FI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 The wiring looks scary, and when your doing it its' scary. But it isn't really hard. I know I'm good with wires and all that (kinda had a thing for electronics a couple of years back) but it only took probably a total of 16 hours to remove the harness and cut it done. Add another 6 hours for looking all over the net for things I needed to know and asking people questions. I look forward to doing my next loom cut down as maybe I'll be able to do a good write up on it. I can see however why people want to carb. It simplifies things to no end. None of these silly codes popping up all the time. But the power throughout the power band on the EFI 22 is just awesome. I don't think it would be very easy at all to get a carb to do the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 we'll soon find out...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy D Posted May 29, 2007 Author Share Posted May 29, 2007 we'll soon find out...... haha F**K yeah brian...hey where did you get your manifold and how easy was it for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 took about a year to find it in the price range in my budget.but it could easily be built.you'll see.cheers, brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 With MegaSquirt there's no need for carbs and wierd distributors from Ford's to modify the fuel intake. You can attach any TB you want and tune it any way you want for about $350. It also allows any engine to be installed - start with an EA82 SPFI, then later drop in an EJ22T, then maybe later on a WRX EJ20, etc, etc. All without touching the wireing to any great degree or having to locate stock harnesses or ECU's. Just retune with your old PII laptop running Windows 95 or whatever you can find at the goodwill. At this point carbs are a solution for those who are afraid of FI, or have no knowledge of electronics or software. Anything a carb can do, FI can do better and more reliably. And I challenge anyone to prove me wrong.... and with the addition of open-source FI packages like MS it's cheaper than most performance carbs too. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 actually,you could go on with a lot of reasons to dissuede young "d" .but he asked about the carbie stuff. not what was better or more advanced. as far as being afraid mate.gimme a ************ing break.i am going to say this one more time.SOME ************ING PEOPLE ARE OLD SCHOOL AND LIKE CARBS!cheers, brian With MegaSquirt there's no need for carbs and wierd distributors from Ford's to modify the fuel intake. You can attach any TB you want and tune it any way you want for about $350. It also allows any engine to be installed - start with an EA82 SPFI, then later drop in an EJ22T, then maybe later on a WRX EJ20, etc, etc. All without touching the wireing to any great degree or having to locate stock harnesses or ECU's. Just retune with your old PII laptop running Windows 95 or whatever you can find at the goodwill. At this point carbs are a solution for those who are afraid of FI, or have no knowledge of electronics or software. Anything a carb can do, FI can do better and more reliably. And I challenge anyone to prove me wrong.... and with the addition of open-source FI packages like MS it's cheaper than most performance carbs too. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy D Posted May 29, 2007 Author Share Posted May 29, 2007 actually,you could go on with a lot of reasons to dissuede young "d" .but he asked about the carbie stuff. not what was better or more advanced.as far as being afraid mate.gimme a ************ing break.i am going to say this one more time.SOME ************ING PEOPLE ARE OLD SCHOOL AND LIKE CARBS!cheers, brian thanks brian, but i am afriad of FI:grin: but i just want to check it out...im intersted in anything that h:grin: as less work and lots of power so feel free to tell me more GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baccaruda Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I thought that Megasquirt didn't yet have a code for the EJ engines? I read something to that effect here a while ago.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I thought that Megasquirt didn't yet have a code for the EJ engines? I read something to that effect here a while ago.. I read the same thing. I think WJM is working on making it work though. Haven't seen an update lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 IIRC, megasquirt can't decipher the Crank Angle Sensor signal. so something else has to be used. be it a distributer, or a sensor on the crank pulley... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 There is such a thing as a carbed ej18. Really? In what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Really? In what? Not in the US. But they do exist. A member from Barbados had/has one. One of the reasons it's not too hard to retrofit a disty to the EJ is that there's casting marks for the machine work needed to fit it to the passenger head. There's also an EJ15 that came as a carb option in some countries. Apparently with the 2 door Imp body they get over 40 MPG. Megasquirt has no problem with the EJ CAS - in fact some folks use them for other engines. There's not a lot of published *settings* for EJ's, but then there's really not a lot of published settings in general. Most people tune by driving once the engine is running. Laptop in the passenger seat is very helpful. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy D Posted June 1, 2007 Author Share Posted June 1, 2007 what year did they produce the Ej1.5 ? ive heard of them but i didnt know that they came carbureterd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorManzImpreza Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 ej15 is still in production the latest incarnation has dohc heads and makes 10 more BHP than ej16..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy D Posted June 5, 2007 Author Share Posted June 5, 2007 Not in the US. But they do exist. A member from Barbados had/has one. One of the reasons it's not too hard to retrofit a disty to the EJ is that there's casting marks for the machine work needed to fit it to the passenger head. There's also an EJ15 that came as a carb option in some countries. Apparently with the 2 door Imp body they get over 40 MPG. Megasquirt has no problem with the EJ CAS - in fact some folks use them for other engines. There's not a lot of published *settings* for EJ's, but then there's really not a lot of published settings in general. Most people tune by driving once the engine is running. Laptop in the passenger seat is very helpful. GD write ups? links? ummmm people who have done it in the subaru world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 i will soon have more to report.i am currently hooked up at about 95%.i should be firing this motor in about a week.cheers, brian:banana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in Bellingham Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 we'll soon find out...... lets see it Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in Bellingham Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Anything a carb can do, FI can do better and more reliably. GD how about swamp the wiring / ECU in a big mud hole , then lets see which one will run, that interests me for a offroad machine, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 how about swamp the wiring / ECU in a big mud hole , then lets see which one will run, that interests me for a offroad machine, well, waterproofing precautions will have to be taken in either case....neither option would really be much easier. a carbed setup will have a disty....I could never keep those damn things dry on my EA82s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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