EA-82 trans pics

[Hodaka Rider]

So, I'm looking for pics of EA-82 trannys. I got a D/R without linkage, and would like to see what the linkages look like (intact) for when I go to the J/Y to pull parts.

 

Specifically looking for pics of '88-'89 SPFI D/R trans if possible.

[Hodaka Rider]

OK, here's a question:

Does this look like it has a neutral position switch, or not?

[Phizinza]

Wired switch down to the left is the reversing light swtich I think

 

Big round thing near the top is the spring for the shifter lever I think as well...

 

Damn my memory, it's so bad at the moemnt.

 

I'll have a look on my PC for a normal D/R 5sp pics.

[Phizinza]

Ok, couldn't add a attachment to my last post... heres a 5sp

[mellow65]

hey i know that tranny, good to see you got it. didn't dan tell you what year it came from. i think 88 and 89s only had that neutral switch because of the spfi, the older ones didn't but GD gave an easy way of bypassing that in his ea81 spfi swap write up. but it would work on a ea82 also.

[Hodaka Rider]

Actually, I specifically requested that it be from an '88 or '89 with the neutral position switch. Thus the question.

[Phizinza]

Picky now are ya??! hahah :-p

 

I've got a pic of the other side of that gearbox and it looks identical to yours. Although the gearbox in my pictures came from an 88 Aussie delivered EA82 wagon so I have no idea if it would be the same as yours.

[Hodaka Rider]

hey i know that tranny, good to see you got it. didn't dan tell you what year it came from. i think 88 and 89s only had that neutral switch because of the spfi, the older ones didn't but GD gave an easy way of bypassing that in his ea81 spfi swap write up. but it would work on a ea82 also.

I'll look in the morning, but I think the Loyale already uses a clutch switch for something else. Plus, it's kind of a kludgy way of doing things (IMHO).

[Hodaka Rider]

Picky now are ya??! hahah :-p

 

I've got a pic of the other side of that gearbox and it looks identical to yours. Although the gearbox in my pictures came from an 88 Aussie delivered EA82 wagon so I have no idea if it would be the same as yours.

Did the '88 it came in have SPFI, or carb?

[Phizinza]

Only got carbed models here in Australia (well there was a couple of NA MPFI as well.) But it was a carb model, yes

 

There is a switch on the left side for reverse and a switch on the right for 4wd. I think the EJ box I pulled down had another on the left for the neutral.

[mellow65]

Did the '88 it came in have SPFI, or carb?

 

in the US here 88 and 89 ea82 4x4 were all spfi and DR

 

except the DLs they were push button

[mellow65]

I'll look in the morning, but I think the Loyale already uses a clutch switch for something else. Plus, it's kind of a kludgy way of doing things (IMHO).

 

its not the clutch switch you use, you use a switch for a cruise control, more or less when you put the clutch down the computer thinks your in neutral. which would work.

 

and yes it is kind of a "kludgy" but that's the way of the subaru. as long as it works that's all i care about.

 

 

 

If you don't find your answer by this weekend, I might be trying to pull my motor and tranny out of my 89 so I can take some pictures and put them up for you

[Hodaka Rider]

Anyone got more info?

[Hodaka Rider]

Dan just triple checked the car this came from, and swears it is an '88 SPFI GL wagon. Very strange that it does not have a neutral switch. *sigh*

I guess I'm going to look at all the info on putting these into a Loyale yet again. I can't put a switch on the clutch pedal - there's already one there for something else. I don't want to deal with the car always throwing a code, either.

[mellow65]

Dan just triple checked the car this came from, and swears it is an '88 SPFI GL wagon. Very strange that it does not have a neutral switch. *sigh*

I guess I'm going to look at all the info on putting these into a Loyale yet again. I can't put a switch on the clutch pedal - there's already one there for something else. I don't want to deal with the car always throwing a code, either.

 

here i will aid with some pictures.

 

you can see there is a switch on the top with the green wire, that is the clutch safety switch, that is the switch that doesn't let your car start with out the clutch pressed all the way down.

 

The bolt with the nut on it below it is the spot I am talking about. the switch that went there was only there when the car was equipped with cruise control. So if you put the clutch down it would shut off the cruise. You can see on my 94 loyale it didn't have cruise so they just put a bolt there.

 

If you replace the bolt with this a cruise control switch

 

 

you now have a second switch that can be used instead of your neutral switch on the tranny. I got this one off of my 84 hardtop that I am parting out. It is just a simple closed open switch. Closed when pressed and open when released. The neutral switch is the same way, closed when in gear and open when in neutral. So think of it this way, clutch all the way up, button pressed, ECU thinks it's in gear, press clutch down, release switch, ECU thinks it's in neutral. It's not perfect but it apparently fools the ECU enough to work

 

You would just have to run the wires from the plug that did plug into the tranny neutral switch and splice it into this switch.

 

Here is a paragraph that GD wrote that explains it better.

 

 

The 88 and up transmissions should

all have the switch as carburators were discontinued after 87 and all the forms of fuel injection require it. The neutral

switch provides information to the ECU on the gear state of the transmission. It's a simple switch that is closed when in

gear, and open when not. Some claim that not hooking this switch up at all is "ok", but I prefer to hook as much up as I

can as it's not possible for us to look into the ECU's software and forsee all possible consequences of the alternative,

and even though it might run fine, the ECU will complain with a "check engine" lamp after driving for only a few miles. Also

if another component fails it could setup a scenario where the ECU is forced into "limp mode" due to too many system

failures when it would not otherwise have done so had the neutral switch code not been present. Thus I sugest you make

every effort to install the system the way it was intended to be installed. One solution I've found with a transmission

that does not have the switch is to use a clutch pedal switch used with EA81's and EA82's (and possibly others) to

control the cruise control. This switch is shaped like a bolt with two nuts on it and it threads into the stop-bolt location

on the clutch pedal. Just like the transmission neutral switch, the cruise control switch is designed to be closed when the

clutch is released (in gear), and open when the clutch is engaged (neutral). So as a surrogate neutral switch it works

well, and is acceptable enough to the ECU to prevent the code 51 error indicating the ECU can't find the switch.

[Hodaka Rider]

Thanks for the pics, Mellow. I understand what you mean now. I guess that looks doable, but then I need to find a M/T car with cruise to steal the switch from.

Another idea my dad came up with is to just use a good sealed microswitch. Make a bump or detent on the selector shaft outside of the tranny, and mount the switch on a bracket beside it. Might work.

[mellow65]

Thanks for the pics, Mellow. I understand what you mean now. I guess that looks doable, but then I need to find a M/T car with cruise to steal the switch from.

Another idea my dad came up with is to just use a good sealed microswitch. Make a bump or detent on the selector shaft outside of the tranny, and mount the switch on a bracket beside it. Might work.

 

 

hell there are tons of them out there. and they don't have to be from just old stuff. look in legacys out there, most of those came with cruise. The one in the picture you can send me a couple bucks for and I will send you it with the plug for the harness side too so if you ever needed to take it out you could.

 

let me know

 

and doing the micro switch would work, but you would have to make stuff. why do that when you can just unbolt something and then put something back in and then run some wires and you are done.