pinksock Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Ok I have a buddy thats on his why here to help me finish the 3or4 wires to hard wire in with my EA-EJ swap. I had A USMB member do my wiring and I dont know what the wire labled VSS is??? And the other wire I'm not sure about is the nuteral switch?? I have a 85 4x4 5speed GL wagon, seens it a 5speed I shouldnt need the nuteral switch right?? If anyone can help FAST It would really be alot of help!!!!! Thanks Tony~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subyrally Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Ok I have a buddy thats on his why here to help me finish the 3or4 wires to hard wire in with my EA-EJ swap. I had A USMB member do my wiring and I dont know what the wire labled VSS is??? And the other wire I'm not sure about is the nuteral switch?? I have a 85 4x4 5speed GL wagon, seens it a 5speed I shouldnt need the nuteral switch right?? If anyone can help FAST It would really be alot of help!!!!! Thanks Tony~ vss is vehical speed sensor, i think on the ej cars have two, i tihnk. one for hte speedometer and the other for the tcu or ecu, not 100% though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinksock Posted July 25, 2007 Author Share Posted July 25, 2007 Thanks but where is it on the EA car. The wire is labeled but dont know where to look. and still need to know about the nuteral switch???? Tony~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinksock Posted July 25, 2007 Author Share Posted July 25, 2007 ok here a pic of a alternator thats been done EA-EJ swap(its a EJ alternator) Ok the first plug with the three wires coming out of it, I see where those go. But the BIG WHITE wire that is coming out of the second plug I dont know where that goes?? does anyone know or have a good pic of where the BIG white wire Goes?? Tony~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 The VSS will be coming from your speedo, not sure exactly about which ones on an ea82 car. But look there. You will throw a cel for the nuetral switch if you don't hook it to something. A modified clutch switch from a loyale would suffice. Just something to tell the ecu that you are in neutral at some point in time will keep the cel at bay. The early ej22 vss is in the speedo as well, it will only have a second vss if it is an awd auto tranny. In which case it won't matter, because the tcu will not be in the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 yes you need a neutral switch, and yes your car should already have one. There should be a lockout switch on the trans or clutch used to keep you from starting the engine in gear, you can just use that. Alternately, you could wire in a brake light switch onto the clutch pedal and use that to simulate neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 The large output wire on the alternator should go to the power panel under the hood and tie to a fuse. Then it should tie to the battery. This is the charging wire for the battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinksock Posted July 25, 2007 Author Share Posted July 25, 2007 Ok, so last night everything was hooked up except the nuteral switch and the VSS wire. The car would crank but would not fire ( checked and there was no spark) would the VSS or the nuteral switch let the car be cranked over but no spark?? Is that how the nuteral switch keeps the car from turning over?? Just by not giving it spark?? And one more thing while I tried to start it last night, I noticed that the Tach would fly all the way past red line and then go back the zero?? Is this because those two wires werent hooked up?? Or will it just do that now on start up?? Thanks for the help, I just need a little more and this bad boy will be RUNNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :headbang: Tony~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Ok, so last night everything was hooked up except the nuteral switch and the VSS wire. The car would crank but would not fire ( checked and there was no spark) would the VSS or the nuteral switch let the car be cranked over but no spark?? Is that how the nuteral switch keeps the car from turning over?? Just by not giving it spark?? no, I don't have a neutral switch or VSS hooked up in my car. runs awesome. does throw CEL codes for them.....but I don't have the CEL wired into the dash, so I don't have to look at it unless I want to And one more thing while I tried to start it last night, I noticed that the Tach would fly all the way past red line and then go back the zero?? Is this because those two wires werent hooked up?? Or will it just do that now on start up?? that's just weird....I'll have to check the diagrams and stuff....My car doesn't do that, and I've never seen any other older subaru do that (the new STis and whatnot do some goofy thing like that when you turn on the ignition....). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinksock Posted July 25, 2007 Author Share Posted July 25, 2007 Ok the problem im having is im not getting power to the coil or the second yellow wire to the fuel pump relay, but the fuel pump cycles with the key on. I dont have any of the alternator wires hooked up just a big battery does that have something to do with it. So I have no Spark at all right at the coil!! Im culeless?? Tony~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Subaru's tend to not like to run right or at all without an alternator.... but that's EA82 experience, maybe try to hook up the alternator and see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberoo Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 the alternator might be a cause of your grief.My car doesnt have the Vss or the nuetral safety switch hooked up.I dont even recall if they were in my harness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinksock Posted July 25, 2007 Author Share Posted July 25, 2007 Ok that will be my next plan of action!! Tony~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Remember, the VR is internal in these alternators also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinksock Posted July 25, 2007 Author Share Posted July 25, 2007 so not having the alternator hooked up, is that way the coil isnt getting power?? It sounds like thats what you are saying. Tony~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 The voltage regulator regulates power to the coil, right? I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinksock Posted July 26, 2007 Author Share Posted July 26, 2007 well ive been think of way this thing wont start and I was think about how i wired my fuel pump. the fuel pump i used was out of a fuel injected subaru, it had a red and black wire coming from it and i figured that the red was power and the black was ground. the fuel pump is working i can here it cycle when the key is on, but if i had those wires wrong would that maybe way im not getting power to the coil?? Tony~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinksock Posted July 26, 2007 Author Share Posted July 26, 2007 oh yea, right now ive hooked up the red wire. Tony~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Are you running the stater off of the ea system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinksock Posted July 26, 2007 Author Share Posted July 26, 2007 What do you mean, right now i have the wiring hooked up which numbchux did for me, and everything is hooked up but the three alternator wires. the wierd thing is the car didnt have a alternator when i bought it and i drove it home. so thats way i dont thing that it has anything to do with the alternator not being hooked up?? Tony~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 With the swap, you can either use the stock ea starting system. Or run the ej ecu's stating system. If the ecu isn't getting signal from the clutch switch it won't allow the motor to start. If you are using the ea system, it will still crank and not start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinksock Posted July 26, 2007 Author Share Posted July 26, 2007 that is what its doing, i hard wired the starter and ignition wires straight to the EA ignition(under the steering column) Tony~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinksock Posted July 26, 2007 Author Share Posted July 26, 2007 so how do i fix this Tony~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 You'll need to wire it up to a toggle or push button. Run a fused pwoer to one side of the switch, then hook the other up to the wire going to the ecu. It is connector b58 pin 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinksock Posted July 26, 2007 Author Share Posted July 26, 2007 do i have to do this because my ECU and EJ22 came out of a car with a auto trans?? or is there anyway else I can do this. Maybe wire it different?? Tony~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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