markjw Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Ive got the D/R 4 speed out of my '84 donar in place in my '80 wagon. I have the axles installed and the drive shaft too. I can see that the clutch cable is not right (too short). I can simply tranplant the one from the donar into the '80 Connecting to the clutch fork is simple enough, but it will not connect to the clutch pedel in its current form. Changing clutch pedels doesnt look like it will work either. Any Ideas Appreciated..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 look at the cable mounts on the tranny.might be switchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjw Posted August 19, 2007 Author Share Posted August 19, 2007 The lenght of the cable is the problem. The clutch fork on the old EA71, s/r 4 speed was on the drivers side where as the (new) d/r tranny's fork is on the passenger side. So, the original cable needs to be switched for the longer cable from the '84, but the '84's cable will not connect to the '80 pedel. It will connect to the tranny 'cause it was originally connected to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 then swap out the pedal cluster. IIRC, 82+ years have a different clutch and a different clutch cable setup. Its easy to swap the pedal cluster. Just unbolt the column from under the dash (2 bolts and a few electrical connections) and one bolt where it connects to the steering box at the universals. Then it'll be 4 nuts that bolt the master cylinder to the pedal cluster and I think thats it on an EA81. I've replaced a few on EA82s but its been a long while since I did an EA81. Should only take about an hour at most to swap them and the hardest part will be getting the U-joint off of the shaft:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Oops double post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjw Posted August 19, 2007 Author Share Posted August 19, 2007 I'll look at that closer in the morning. That would do it if it will swap over. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjw Posted August 19, 2007 Author Share Posted August 19, 2007 Yup. I think that will work. I had to go look and everything looks the same. The pedel cluster in the '84 is much tighter, too. Big Bonus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjw Posted August 19, 2007 Author Share Posted August 19, 2007 Hey Caboobaroo, Worked out very well. Thanks. I had to do it twice 'cause the master cyl. rod has to be attached to the brake pedal BEFORE the cluster is attached to the firewall. Also, the clutch cable should be attached to its pedal as well. Much easier that way. I'm going to reseal the ea81 this afternoon, maybe drop it in tonight. You can barley see it in the pic, but this paint job has a really cool pin stripe inbedded in the paint. When I'm done with the swap, Im going to find someone who knows how to ride a buffer and see if they can bring it out more. http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111/shedmr/pic2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Glad everything worked out for you. I figured that since you had the parts car, it would just be easier to swap the two pedal clusters instead of trying to modify the one that you had in the car to work with the clutch cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Its kind of funny, but I was thinking about you doing this swap in my head, and realized this was going to be a hold up on it. I was about to pm you to tell you what you'd have to do... But I see it has been taken care of... BTW... That is a really pretty wagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjw Posted August 20, 2007 Author Share Posted August 20, 2007 Thanks for thinking about me. I'm thinkin I'm going to have some issues hooking up the electrical. Mostly ign. stuff over by the coil. I can see that the connecto plugs dont quite match up. I'll put the motor in tomorrow morning. Everything else is going well. I hope to be test driving her tomorrow night.. I gotta tell ya. I have been looking at subaru wagons for days and days now and I also think mine is a very nice looking one. It sat for a couple years under a tree down in Lewis county. Needs a serious cleaning inside and out but that can wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 If you're using the 2wd ea81 motor you may well have a feedback carb equiped engine. In which case the wiring will be different, but the 4wd parts car should be standard hitachi carb. You may have to do a little swapping here and there between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjw Posted August 20, 2007 Author Share Posted August 20, 2007 Aaahh...Another snag. I just went to install the clutch kit and it's way too big. Meaning the Diameter of the disk is about an inch too much. I orderd the clutch for the 4wd ea81, but my transplant engine is a ea81 out of a '84 2wd. Can I take the flywheel from my '84 4wd donar car and attach it to my 2wd motor? I'm worried about balance issues...Any advice appreciated,Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 You can use the 4wd flywheel no problem. You may want to have it resurfaced though. Cheap insurance against pulling it all apart again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjw Posted August 20, 2007 Author Share Posted August 20, 2007 Thanks man...Ill call around and see about resurfaceing...Man that original clutch is small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Just about good shop should be able to do it. Just make sure they have the correct specs for it. One shop here charges about $20 to surface a flywheel, I wouldn't think it would cost much more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjw Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 I pretty much have everything installed except the intake manifold. I thought i might be able to, in order to solve some of my connecto problems, use the old ea71 intake and carb on the new ea81 motor, but as most of you know, that aint gonna work. So, my next thought was to just switch carbs, but they mount up diffrently. I'm kinda stuck. Can i eliminate some of this emissons stuff? The first pic is of the original ea71 carb. The second one is of the ea81 carb. Says carter/weber on it. The last two pics are of things connected to my engine that I would really like to get rid of. Any ideas appreciated...Thanks. http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111/shedmr/ea71.jpg http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111/shedmr/ea81.jpg http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111/shedmr/em1.jpg http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111/shedmr/em2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjw Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 but the 4wd parts car should be standard hitachi carb. You may have to do a little swapping here and there between. I missed this somehow. And yes, it looks like the hitachi from the ea71 will bolt right onto it and then I can mount it all onto my ea81. Or, maybe the carb thats on there now will be more compatible than the carter/weber. I have read a few threads about removing emissions equipment and keeping the stock hitachi carb. Seems its very doable. For the most part, remove or plug everything except vac. advance, brake booster vac and heater ducts vac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjw Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 I actually got the engine to run, but only by pouring fuel into the carb. For some reason the fuel pump isnt delivering any fuel. I Jumpered it from a ground and the pos. side of the battery and it sputterd to life. I checked the wires coming from the harness into the pump and can find no power. I jumpered it whilethe fuel line was connected to the carb and started the car and it ran at hight idle for a few seconds then died. Like it flooded. Im wondering if the fuel pump runs all the time or is there a regulator that turns it on only when needed? Any ideas???Thanks,Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjw Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 BTW, The fuel pump is mounted on the firewall, drivers side, under the wiper motor.Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjw Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 I jumperd the fuel pump straight from the battery again with everything hooked up and started the car and drove her for about 3 miles.. Runs great and as far as I can tell the d/r 4 speed works fine. I need to figure out the fuel pump issue. It has something to do with the charging system for sure. My battery lite on my dash board is on and I havent checked but I bet the alt is not charging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjw Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 Well, I figured it out. Actually there wasn't really anything to figure out. I just needed to finish hooking up the altenator. There is a white, two prong plug coming from the harness that needs to be pushed into the back of the altenator. I seen it earlier, but disregarded it. It fixed alot of things. Now that I have it idleing, it really runs kinda crappy. I probably have a few vac leaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruguru Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 hey just wondering what are you doing with the old ea71 ?? thanks and good luck with your project Rob:burnout: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjw Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 Its yours, free. Come get it. Its even got a s/r 4 speed attached to it. It needs a head gasket at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjw Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 Dont ever try to tune your engine with a quater tank of 3 yr old gas. Man, I limped her down to Chevron, filled her up and by the time I got home, she was my daily driver. Fresh Gas Rocks. This car runs Great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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