Hodaka Rider Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 I may have a line on an EJ22 from a Legacy Turbo. I would not have access to the vehicle, just the engine and whatever is still attached to it. Is there a cost-effective way to get this thing running as a EA-EJ swap without the harness/ECU? Alternatively, does someone have a harness/ECU for sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pisces_0 Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 I'm assuming you're planning on running the turbo setup, since that's what the engine is equipped with. That being the case, you'll definitely need a wiring harness and ECU out of a turbo Legacy. The turbo engine ran larger injectors, a different mass airflow sensor, different grind on the cams (not that it's a huge deal), lower compression and, obviously, boost. There are also a few sensors and solenoids that the turbo cars came with to deal with factory boost control. The long and short of it. Will there be a cost effective way to get the engine running? Probably not since you'll have to piece a lot of the needed parts together. Is it worth picking up the engine anyway? Most definitely. Those turbo 2.2's are stout little pieces. If anything you should be able to resell the engine and turn a profit off of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pisces_0 Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Alternatively, does someone have a harness/ECU for sale? Sorry, should have mentioned this in my first post. For all the turbo EJ22 info you could ever want check out Legacy Central: http://bbs.legacycentral.org/ Should be able to find the needed parts to piece together the turbo EJ22 setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 hey mang,i have only ever seen one of those come up around here.so if you have the opportunity to snag it ,go for it! we can find you a wiring harness eventually..........but grab that damn motor! this message has been brought to you buy, your locally sponsored motor junkie cheers, brian I may have a line on an EJ22 from a Legacy Turbo. I would not have access to the vehicle, just the engine and whatever is still attached to it. Is there a cost-effective way to get this thing running as a EA-EJ swap without the harness/ECU? Alternatively, does someone have a harness/ECU for sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodaka Rider Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 For such a rare car, I sure see a lot of them! Mostly still on the road, a few of them looking pretty clapped-out. This is in a 'yard, seems they got rid of the rest of the car long ago. I'll see what kind of offer I can make on it. Last time I was there they had an EA-82 D/R had been sitting on shelf for years. They were asking $360, I offered $100 if it was what I wanted. Alas, no neutral switch, so I passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 For such a rare car, I sure see a lot of them! Mostly still on the road, a few of them looking pretty clapped-out. same thing up here. lots of them on the road. now all the local subaru guys are buying them up, and parting them out, regardless of the condition. that said, one of them parted out a tleg not long ago, with the intent of using the whole motor (harness and ECU aswell). and has since decided to use the heads and intake mani in his RS, and a standalone ECU. soooooo.....he should have the harness and ECU available. I'll ask. otherwise, it's not exactly cheap, but would be an extremely sweet setup. check out the Link LEM G3 ( http://www.linkecu.com ). full standalone, works very well with subaru motors, simple, only about 10 wires to hook up, but still allows cold start enrichment, A/C control etc. I wired one up in my buddies '98 Legacy GT, and it was incredibly easy! it is, however, about an $1100 setup but I think I'll be running one in my car before too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 oh, you misunderstand.i see turbo cars on the road a bit.just none that come up for sale or part out.a regular ej22 can be had any day of the week.literally.but turbos just don't show up.cheers, brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 I see em all the time on craigslist - there's like three on there now. As for the wireing - just do it up with M/S GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 what ************ing part of "around here "don't you people get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodaka Rider Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 what ************ing part of "around here "don't you people get? Now, now. Simmer down son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82glsw Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 not to upset u monstaru but there 2 of those cars in a u pull it yard near me the engines can be had for $130 a piece and the harnes run $20. just dont have the money to get any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy D Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 dude, theres a local import yard in reno, its where my metals teacher gets all of his EJ's for his rally buggy's. EJ's all come with harness ej18-250$ ej22-350$ ej25 dohc-1500$ i havent called him yet but thats what he's told me its where im gonna go for my engines maybe they'll have an ej20G -Dalton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pisces_0 Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 You all do realize why monstaru is getting so worked up, don't you? The EJ22T that came in turbo Legacies is a closed-deck, lower compression, tough-as-nails version of the dime-a-dozen EJ22E. They're getting tougher and tougher to find as many of the WRX/STi guys are snatching them up for builds. Quite a different engine than a N/A EJ22E. I pulled the wiring harness and ECU off of a turbo Legy in a local 'yard with the intention of coming back in a few days for the engine. Silly me, I thought it'd be around when I came back! Sure enough, gone and up on eBay that very same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zefy Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 just for the record. all you people saying you can get ej22's for dirt cheap. true... i got mine for free. however! turbo ej22's are a whole different animal. the only thing similar between the turbo and non-turbo motors is the displacement. it is probably not cost effective to 'make it work'. however, if you pass it up and for some reason come by my way gimmy a shout!!! and um... i see lots of them on the road to!:-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zefy Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 just for the record. all you people saying you can get ej22's for dirt cheap. true... i got mine for free. however! turbo ej22's are a whole different animal. the only thing similar between the turbo and non-turbo motors is the displacement. it is probably not cost effective to 'make it work'. however, if you pass it up and for some reason come by my way gimmy a shout!!! and um... i see lots of them on the road to!:-p crazyD. don't bother with the DOHC ej25's... get the SOHC. phase 2 ftw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 just for the record. all you people saying you can get ej22's for dirt cheap. true... i got mine for free. however! turbo ej22's are a whole different animal. the only thing similar between the turbo and non-turbo motors is the displacement. the 22t is not that different from a 22e. the only difference between a 22t and a 22e, is the shortblock, pistons, cams, and injectors (and the coolant and oil ports on the head, but those can be replicated). drop some 22t pistons and ARP head studs on a 22e, and it's easily strong enough to see 300awhp. and if you're exceeding that, you're probably going to need alcohol injection and some serious bottom end work (at which point you could just pin the cylinder walls anyway) There's a guy here in the Twin Cities who was running a 22t, and was having massive cooling issues. and it was because of the lack of cooling passages with the closed deck block. he swapped it for a 257 shortblock, and it runs much better now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodaka Rider Posted September 5, 2007 Author Share Posted September 5, 2007 I pulled the wiring harness and ECU off of a turbo Legy in a local 'yard with the intention of coming back in a few days for the engine. Silly me, I thought it'd be around when I came back! Sure enough, gone and up on eBay that very same day. So, does that mean you still have an ECU and harness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodaka Rider Posted September 5, 2007 Author Share Posted September 5, 2007 not to upset u monstaru but there 2 of those cars in a u pull it yard near me the engines can be had for $130 a piece and the harnes run $20. just dont have the money to get any If there really are 2 Turbo Legacys in a yard near you, and the engines and harnesses are really that cheap, I'm sure you could find people who would pay you to pull them and ship/deliver/make available for pickup. I for one would probably pay you a good chunk of labour for the harness an ECU if I get this engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 chux,......are you serious?that is pretty much everything....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82glsw Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 yea there are really 2 near me. just never had time or money to tear into them not to many people seem to know about the yard for some reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 chux,......are you serious?that is pretty much everything....... what? differences between 22e and 22t? yea. crank and rods are identical. pistons are interchangeable. only difference between the pistons themselves is the shape for the different compression ratio. valves are the same, intake mani is virtually identical (extra vacuum line for the Boost control solenoid). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in Bellingham Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 You all do realize monstaru is getting so worked up, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pisces_0 Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 So, does that mean you still have an ECU and harness? Yep, got 'em both still. The turbo harness is fully stripped and modified for use in an EA82. One switched 12V hook-up, one constant 12V hook-up and a few underdash wires to connect and she's good to go! Quite a pain in the butt to do, but the harness looks almost like it came from the factory like this. The EPROM chip in the ECU has been removed and a ZIF socket put in its place for ease of removal/installation of the chip. Still quite a bit to learn about the fuel and timing codes, but work is slowly progressing. And are they for sale? As the saying goes, everything has a price...:-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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