LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 -::||UPDATE||::- Don't let that title fool you. This isn't good news. I got everything fixed. The subaru now has BRAND NEW: Timing Belt Water Pump Water Pump Gaskets CV boot Idler Pully AC Belt Radiator 205/75r15 Tires Knock Sensor Duty C Solenoid The first 6 of which were done last week. The car has 130k, has rust on the right rear 1/4 panel, has a broken antenna and a few dings. oh...and it also needs headgaskets. I'm done with it; I'm selling it. Best offer gets it, you haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Head gaskets are easy - shouldn't take more than half a day on an EJ22. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manarius Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Why does it need new HG's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 Head gaskets are easy - shouldn't take more than half a day on an EJ22. GD i don't have the tools, never done it before. The Subaru dealership nearest the car wats $1900 and the place that it got the work done last week wants $1300 plus a 25 mile tow to get it there. I don't want to get into that and then see potential other problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 Why does it need new HG's? it's exhausting out the radiator causing all of the coolant to overflow into the resevior, thus leaving the car with no coolant then overheats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I would assume: 1. 130k - either the T-belt interval was entirely missed back at ~120k, or the water pump/idler/etc wasn't replaced as called for at that time - or inferior parts were used. 2. Subsequent failure of one or more of the aforementioned components caused a severe overheat. 3. Blown head gasket(s). GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 i don't have the tools, never done it before. Buy the tools - $200 at most plus the parts. Still saving money and you'll have the tools next time.... Having never done it is a poor excuse - I hadn't ever done one the first time either GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 timing belt and water pump were both done last week at a subaru dealership. i can't imagine that they're inferior parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 Buy the tools - $200 at most plus the parts. Still saving money and you'll have the tools next time.... Having never done it is a poor excuse - I hadn't ever done one the first time either GD i also don't want to get into it and fine a cracked block or bad head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 timing belt and water pump were both done last week at a subaru dealership. i can't imagine that they're inferior parts. The damage was done when those parts failed and had to be replaced (last week) because of FAILURE, rather than regular maintenance. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 i also don't want to get into it and fine a cracked block or bad head EJ22 blocks don't crack. Heads are cheap used, and also rarely fail. Even should one be bad (highly unlikely) it would only be about $75 for good used one. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 The damage was done when those parts failed and had to be replaced (last week) because of FAILURE, rather than regular maintenance. GD right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 i haven't looked in my Chilton manual lately. is there a procedure on headgaskets in there, you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 i haven't looked in my Chilton manual lately. is there a procedure on headgaskets in there, you think? Absolutely there is. And it's not difficult. I found working on my EJ22 to be twice as easy as working on an EA82. Actually quite enjoyable because the EJ22 is so well designed and simple. I prefer a Haynes manual myself if I don't have the factory manuals. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 any idea how much abouts a headgasket kit costs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 any idea how much abouts a headgasket kit costs? The HG's are about $40 each and you need two (one for each side). You will probably want the valve cover gaskets and the rubber bolt washers for the valve covers as well - I'm not sure on the price of those but it's not insane. I think Fel-Pro makes a kit with everything. And you already have a new timing belt and all that stuff so there wouldn't be any trouble there. I would say around $100 for the rest of the parts you need - give or take. An afternoon, a few new tools (you'll need at least a torque wrench, and basic sockets and wrenches), and about $100 in parts..... don't give up the opportunity to open a whole new world of Subaru ownership - I gaurantee that after doing the HG's on it you will be empowered to tackle virtually any automotive problem you may have - to your great benefit and cost savings. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 $129 for everything from the dealer: http://www.subarupartsforyou.com/cp_partlistbymod.php?model=Legacy&subcat=Engine+Parts%2C+Head+Gasket+Set&year=1995 GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 $129 for everything from the dealer: http://www.subarupartsforyou.com/cp_partlistbymod.php?model=Legacy&subcat=Engine+Parts%2C+Head+Gasket+Set&year=1995 GD $40.99 from Summit http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=FEL%2D9854PT&autoview=sku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 oh, i se, the kit from subaruparts comes with more than just the headgaskets. however, you put 1995. Would it be actually concidered a '95 being that it falls into the "early" 96 model before they made the engine changes? it's a 1996 model and i believe the VIN (or, the "Born On Date" if you're a big beer fan) says Feb. 95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 $129 for everything from the dealer: http://www.subarupartsforyou.com/cp_partlistbymod.php?model=Legacy&subcat=Engine+Parts%2C+Head+Gasket+Set&year=1995 GD do i really need to do the exhaust gaskets and plenum gaskets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimokalihi Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Might as well. That's easy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 Might as well. That's easy too. i'm most concerned about the exhaust gaskets. there's a leak already and the bolts are rusted to hell and back. i'm pretty sure that it's not even really metal anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnwolftrack Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Yes, you will want new intake manifold gaskets and exhaust gaskets. They are considered a one-time-use gasket. And if you already have an exhaust leak, all the more reason. While my 2.5L '98 is a bit different, I paid about $200 for all my gaskets from 1stsubaruparts.com (plus another approximate $200 for water pump and t-belt tensioner but you don't need those). My $200 included the headgaskets, valve cover gaskets, spark plug gaskets, cam seals (4 on the 2.5L), valve cover bolt gaskets, water pump gasket, intake and exhaust gaskets. If you don't want to pull the heads yourself and are concerned about additional problems, just pull the motor yourself and bring it in to a machine shop and let them look it over for you. If you don't have a cherry picker or floor jack, now is a good time to get them or rent them. I got a real nice cherry picker from Northern Tool about 7 years ago for $160 and it was one of the best tool purchases I ever did. I see places like Checker Auto and Advance Auto selling the same one from time to time for $125 including the load leveler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 Yes, you will want new intake manifold gaskets and exhaust gaskets. They are considered a one-time-use gasket. And if you already have an exhaust leak, all the more reason. While my 2.5L '98 is a bit different, I paid about $200 for all my gaskets from 1stsubaruparts.com (plus another approximate $200 for water pump and t-belt tensioner but you don't need those). My $200 included the headgaskets, valve cover gaskets, spark plug gaskets, cam seals (4 on the 2.5L), valve cover bolt gaskets, water pump gasket, intake and exhaust gaskets. If you don't want to pull the heads yourself and are concerned about additional problems, just pull the motor yourself and bring it in to a machine shop and let them look it over for you. If you don't have a cherry picker or floor jack, now is a good time to get them or rent them. I got a real nice cherry picker from Northern Tool about 7 years ago for $160 and it was one of the best tool purchases I ever did. I see places like Checker Auto and Advance Auto selling the same one from time to time for $125 including the load leveler! wait wait....am i going to need to pull the engine to do this?? and it's leaking exhaust from the weld, not the seal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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