idosubaru Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 done this before on older generations, but have only pulled the engines on newer stuff. i tried it today on a 1997 Legacy and the front diff wouldn't clear the cross member before i ran out of room trying to yank the lump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 done this before on older generations, but have only pulled the engines on newer stuff. i tried it today on a 1997 Legacy and the front diff wouldn't clear the cross member before i ran out of room trying to yank the lump. some one on here used to go on and on about it. said it was the easiest. the other way to pull both is to drop them down and lift the chassis up. you leave the wheels on, un bolt the crossmember and control arms(?) , leave the sway bar on ( i think) disconnect the struts, and brakes & steering lines. and of course, whatever else is hanging on, abs..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted October 23, 2007 Author Share Posted October 23, 2007 i've already got it ready to pull through. i'll just stabilize them and separate the engine from the trans. it looks really, really close to coming out, so i bet it can come out. or maybe certain configurations will come out. it's easy to do on EA/ER stuff, they come right out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaru360 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 It comes out, but it's really tight on an E4AT, the 5 speed has more room. It's kind of hard to handle since the auto trans weighs a lot more than the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted October 23, 2007 Author Share Posted October 23, 2007 okay, sounds tight. i've done 4EAT's on older gen stuff, the EJ is definitely tighter. i'll just separate them, doesn't sound like i'm missing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnwolftrack Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 I'd like to say the Hayne's manual said it could be done together, but the Hayne's isn't exactly helpful either. In fact, it says right in the engine removal procedures that they are more like guidelines than an actual procedure. Having removed both items in '98 Outbacks seperately, I'd just assume remove them seperately. I'm not super keen on swinging that much mass around as one unit. It's one thing if if were a small 2wd front wheel drive sidemount transmission and engine, but that subi transmission is heavy! My Toyota 4x4 transmissions are a LOT lighter than this! Plus, it's a long setup and risky to avoid bumping things around. I couldn't get my cherry picker and load leveler to balance the engine (by itself) very well, and I would assume it would be a lot harder with a few hundred more pounds hanging off the back of the engine. It seems like it would be a lot of stress on the hoist points on the engine (but what do I know). Considering you are basically 4 bolts away from seperating them (and supporting the component you aren't removing first), you might as well pull seperately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hocrest Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 I did it on my 97 Legacy with the 4EAT. After they came out, I decided that I would never pull them together again. I think I had to lower the car off the ramps in mid pull :-\ If I'm ever going to pull both again, I'll yank the engine, then use the lift to pull the trans out though the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted October 24, 2007 Author Share Posted October 24, 2007 sounds good. both are coming out, so i had to unbolt everything anyway. thanks guys, i won't bother wasting my time trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 I've pulled two engine/4eat Legacy combos (1990 and 1992) in the wrecking yard using an A-frame with chain hoist, they took about 2.5 hours each (on average, the second one went much quicker as I had all the correct tools). As long as everything is disconnected (including halfshafts) they should come out rather easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrinc Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 What I want to know is...why on earth would you want to? Emily http://www.ccrengines.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted October 25, 2007 Author Share Posted October 25, 2007 What I want to know is...why on earth would you want to? i'm replacing both the engine and transmission. in the older generation stuff it's much easier to pull them at the same time, they come right out as a lump, no need to undo extra bolts with no room and then pry/wiggle everything apart in the engine bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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