Andy FitzGibbon Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Today I was told by the local Subaru dealer that they couldn't get intake manifold bolts or exhaust gaskets for my '85 GL because it's "too old":rolleyes: They got head bolts for the same car a few weeks ago. Maybe it's because I gave them a VIN number from an '89 because it was the closest thing I had on hand. I could try that again, but at this point I think it would be easier to get the stuff online. I know I can get the exhaust gaskets, but doubtful on the manifold bolts. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoyale Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Yeah getting any gaskets are easy to find on the net, But bolts/hardware you'll never find it. It's like a dealer thing seems like? Hope you get you bolts some how.. -Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joostvdw Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Whats so special about them bolts? Just get them at a hardware store, just make sure they can handle the specified torque. Oh and don't get SS bolts, they eat into the aluminium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoyale Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I just thought of something, Try http://www.Prosubaru.com Or http://www.superrupair.com if you talk to them they might get you the intake bolts.. Give'em a try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoyale Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Whats so special about them bolts? Just get them at a hardware store, just make sure they can handle the specified torque. Oh and don't get SS bolts, they eat into the aluminium. What do you mean go to Ace?? Arn't Manifold bolts are rated for a max heat temp? If you just throw some other ones on it they may not take that kinda of heat. Am i wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy FitzGibbon Posted November 7, 2007 Author Share Posted November 7, 2007 Whats so special about them bolts? Just get them at a hardware store, just make sure they can handle the specified torque. Oh and don't get SS bolts, they eat into the aluminium. Easy for you- here, if I want metric bolts I have to buy a box of 100 if I want anything but the most basic sizes. And the manifold bolts are not standard bolts- the body necks down between the threads and the head. I don't know if it makes a difference or not. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobcob Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Try McMaster.com... they've got a LOT of screw fasteners at VERY reasonable prices. I used some of their distorted thread lock nuts for the rockers on my '79 Chevy. Got 100 nuts shipped to my house CHEAPER than getting OEM replacements and they were the same grade of fastener Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellow65 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Easy for you- here, if I want metric bolts I have to buy a box of 100 if I want anything but the most basic sizes. And the manifold bolts are not standard bolts- the body necks down between the threads and the head. I don't know if it makes a difference or not.Andy if you want the next time i'm out at the JY I can grab you a whole hand full so you can pick and choose the good ones. and remember, no salt out here so even the old stuff doen't have rust. not unless you are just wanting to go all new let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durania Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Thats BS, I bought a set of gaskets about 2 weeks ago from my dealer and they don't require a VIN number. I've got it memorized so it wouldnt matter. Here is a list of dealers the Subaru of America site lists: http://www.subaru.com/servlet/DealerSearch?bestFit=true&includeMap=true&from=topnav&dealerSearchString=west+virginia&x=0&y=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edrach Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Call Jason at 1stsubaruparts.com 1-866-528-5282 (toll free). If he can't get what you need it truly might be too old (doubtful). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I'd just get the bolts at a hardware store as well...if not, I've got a pile of random metric bolts on the workbench in the basement from tearing apart a subaru trans. give me some measurements and I can probably send you some. as for the exhaust gaskets. I looked them up in my subaru quick reference guide. give him this: EA82: 44022GA330 or EA81 44023GA340 those are the header to engine gaskets. I have all the others listed too if you need...just let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy FitzGibbon Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 Thanks for the exhaust gasket part number. As for the bolts, I want to go with new. The last time I was torquing these down they didn't feel so great to me, and I don't want to twist one off. Thanks for the offer though, Matt. This dealer needs the VIN because they are a new dealer, and don't have any old parts books. Their computer programs don't go back that far either. When I order anything for my cars, they have to call in with the VIN number to order stuff. Car is an '85 carbed EA82 GL, shouldn't be "too old". Like I said, they got me head bolts for it a couple weeks ago. I will try going in there with a '92 VIN and order the same parts, and see what I get. Thanks, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subyrally Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 it might take a bit longer to get your parts, but call jackie at anapolis subaru here in maryland. she will go out of her way to help you find parts. if you go onto nasiopc and look in themid atlantic chapter, they have their contact info in the vendor section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Thanks for the exhaust gasket part number. As for the bolts, I want to go with new. The last time I was torquing these down they didn't feel so great to me, and I don't want to twist one off. Thanks for the offer though, Matt.Andy Since the bolts are steel and the head is aluminium, it's probably the threads in the head you where feeling start to slip, not the bolts threads. Bolts from the hardware or auto poarts store will work fine. Just get higher grade metric boltrs and you'll be fine. No special heat or shaft requirements, just a hardened M8 (or M10?) bolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy FitzGibbon Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 Since the bolts are steel and the head is aluminium, it's probably the threads in the head you where feeling start to slip, not the bolts threads. Bolts from the hardware or auto poarts store will work fine. Just get higher grade metric boltrs and you'll be fine. No special heat or shaft requirements, just a hardened M8 (or M10?) bolt It's not the threads I feel slipping, it's the body of the bolt overstretching from being torqued too many times. The manifold bolts are like the oil pump bolts in that both are long and skinny, and both have a habit of twisting off when they are stretched out. I could probably use the ones I have, just figured I'd pick up new ones since they will be cheap enough and I could then avoid the chance of twisting one off. Dealer is going to try again with a VIN from a '92 Loyale, we'll see if that works. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy FitzGibbon Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 Well, the dealer came through. Not sure if it was the '92 VIN I gave him or if he just checked more carefully, but they're getting eveything I wanted. Maybe if I order enough old stuff from them they will get into the swing of it. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 It's not the threads I feel slipping, it's the body of the bolt overstretching from being torqued too many times. The manifold bolts are like the oil pump bolts in that both are long and skinny, and both have a habit of twisting off when they are stretched out. Not trying to dissuade you from getting new bolts.... but how tight are you torquing them? off the top of my head, I wanna say that the book calls for 12-15 lbs of torque on those bolts... Gloyale's point was that steel intake manifold bolts have only one excuse to need replacement: rust. They shouldn't be flexing or wearing at all. Like I said, I am not trying to be argumentative about it.. just making sure you aren't grossly overtorquing your intake bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4x4_Welder Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 You have a Fastenal right there in Elkins. They have the bolts you need. There is also North American Fastener Co in Bridgeport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 recycle your used bolys, save every boly tou remove. because when you havetwo 5 gallon buckets ov bolys to dig through, one of them just may have the one bolt you need. otherwise, good luck finding something with 1.25 threads, even the hardware store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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