lostinthe202 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 OK, so I call the dealer trying to locate a factory service manual for my car ('89 hatch) and the guy tells me that they didn't make them prior to '91. This has to be BS as I will stake money that the dealer repair techs did not use haynes or some other crap. I assume he means that they are discontinued. Anyone know of a place to get a FSM besides getting lucky on Feebay? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Lazy Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 http://www.finleyweb.net/JonsStuff/SubaruDocumentation/tabid/54/Default.aspx was listed some time ago in this thread http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=82976&page=2&highlight=manual The EA82 manual is an 89 FSM (partial) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edrach Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 www.books4cars.com And yes, there is a FSM for '89. I believe it comes in six volumes. You can also try ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinthe202 Posted January 9, 2008 Author Share Posted January 9, 2008 http://www.finleyweb.net/JonsStuff/SubaruDocumentation/tabid/54/Default.aspx was listed some time ago in this thread http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=82976&page=2&highlight=manual The EA82 manual is an 89 FSM (partial) Thanks for the links, I actually did come across that thread while searching, but the pdf.'s I found are just for the motor, I'm looking for the whole car.... EDIT- Thanks edrach, I was writing the above response while you were writing yours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinthe202 Posted January 9, 2008 Author Share Posted January 9, 2008 www.books4cars.comAnd yes, there is a FSM for '89. I believe it comes in six volumes. You can also try ebay. I checked these guys out too and I only see stuff for coupes and 3 doors and from my understanding these are noticeably different than the hatchback. I've been told that searching under the year '84 gets me closer to my car, but none of those books look like the right thing. any other ideas? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 You need an '84 FSM. They did not make them from 85 to 89 for the EA81 vehicles. There were supplements made or TSB's issued against the 84 manual. They come up on ebay from time to time, and you can still order them from the dealer. Cost is ~$80 GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subyrally Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 dude, if you are in the dc area, take a trip to anapolis subaru and talk to jackie. has to be one of hte best parts departments ive come across. jackie is grea, she has taken the time on numerous occasions to search down hard to find pars for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinthe202 Posted January 9, 2008 Author Share Posted January 9, 2008 dude, if you are in the dc area, take a trip to anapolis subaru and talk to jackie. has to be one of hte best parts departments ive come across. jackie is grea, she has taken the time on numerous occasions to search down hard to find pars for me. Excellent, thanks for the tip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subyrally Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 not a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 for the record, an 89 hatch, that is actually a "hatch" is not a very common thing. Many many people inadvertently refer to the three door EA82 coupe as a "hatch" and given your late model year, it will be very easy (in the future) for anyone to presume you mean "coupe" instead of "hatch" just because of the 89 model year. In future posts, if you are having problems, it might be wise to clarify that you do, indeed, have the ea81 powered hatch in some subtle way, and not the EA82. I make this comment to illustrate exactly why they didnt print FSMs for the varying model years after 84.. they hardly imported any of them. Take care of that 'Roo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinthe202 Posted January 9, 2008 Author Share Posted January 9, 2008 for the record, an 89 hatch, that is actually a "hatch" is not a very common thing. Many many people inadvertently refer to the three door EA82 coupe as a "hatch" and given your late model year, it will be very easy (in the future) for anyone to presume you mean "coupe" instead of "hatch" just because of the 89 model year. In future posts, if you are having problems, it might be wise to clarify that you do, indeed, have the ea81 powered hatch in some subtle way, and not the EA82. I make this comment to illustrate exactly why they didnt print FSMs for the varying model years after 84.. they hardly imported any of them. Take care of that 'Roo! You make a good point that I am starting to take a lot more seriously. I've already had a number of bad experiences trying to get parts for it and ending up with the wrong stuff. Luckily for me I have the fine people of this board like yourself and GD to give me such minor seeming but all to important tips, like asking after '84 parts!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 We are assuming your "hatch" looks something like this Is this correct? Thanks to EZ for the shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinthe202 Posted January 9, 2008 Author Share Posted January 9, 2008 We are assuming your "hatch" looks something like thisIs this correct? Thanks to EZ for the shot Correct, in fact it looks just like this one in the "tracks" post without the tracks, which is hilarious btw... http://break.com/index/sweet-subaru-...ow-tracks.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinthe202 Posted January 9, 2008 Author Share Posted January 9, 2008 Only pic I have of it currently, kinda crappy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milemaker13 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Nice car. I know Gloyale has a lot of FSM's... Maybe try to send him a PM about it. He has helped me alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 They aren't as rare as all that really. I've seen plenty of 85 to 89 Hatch's and Brat's. They were inexpensive, and as such Subaru actually sold a lot of them. I have a personal preference for the STD model with the two round headlights, the EA71 and the 4 speed single range 4WD tranny. I've wanted one for a while for a t-case build. Alas they are the hardest to find because they were the easiest to justify throwing away. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I've got a collection of FSMs going too... Got a complete set for 1986 and 1987 (6 volumes, 4 books each), the 1978 manual, random ones from 1974 and the 1972 FF1s, and soon to have one from 1983! But of course, I collect them for informational use since I tend to do a lot with Subarus. Anyways, yes in the FSM, your car is classified as a hatchback and the EA82 coupe is referred to as a 3-door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94Loyale Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Lost, did you pick that one up in PA? I think I posted a link of that one in the for sale section. I never got to look at it, it was like 2.5 hours away from me. If it is the one, what kind of shape is it in? The guy never really elaborated when I talked to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinthe202 Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 Lost, did you pick that one up in PA? I think I posted a link of that one in the for sale section. I never got to look at it, it was like 2.5 hours away from me. If it is the one, what kind of shape is it in? The guy never really elaborated when I talked to him. Yeah! I got it from a guy in Spring Grove. I'd been wanting one of these for a long time and got lucky this time around. It was a bit of a haul for me too, about 2 hours. But sometimes you just gotta go for it. I know what you mean about the seller, he was a bit lacking in communication. He never really responded to most of my questions. But as long as the car lived up to what he put in the description I was happy. The only thing that didn't is that he said it gets 35mpg. I've been getting 30-31 but I haven't given it a tuneup yet so I'm still hoping.... The condition is pretty good. There are a few rust spots that will need attention. But the underside looks fine. Mechanically it's in pretty good shape aside from all the normal stuff that wears out after 20 years. The Seller said it "may need a new muffler, iginition switch, and clutch adjustment." The muffler was a def. as it had a couple of holes the size of my fist in it. After two wrong mufflers I finally got that sorted. The electrical part of the ignition tumbler was failing, specifically the starting portion. I tried ordering one from the dealer and again got the wrong part (which I couldn't return because it was a special order!!) so I just wired in a momentary contact switch which I mounted in the dash in one of the holes for accessories I don't have. There's nothing wrong with the clutch far as I can tell. He made some comment about the car "always starting, you just sometimes have to push the clutch in real hard" referring to it not starting sometimes so I think he thought there is a clutch kill switch, which there isn't. Aside from that, the front axles need replacing, after getting the wrong ones (third time!!!!) I posted here and GD set me straight about asking after parts for an '84 and got the correct ones from Napa, but I've been considering taking them back as I've read numerous horror stories about Napa and other discountish axles failing out of the box or quickly there after. Some one suggested GCK axles off Amazon (of which there are tons) but they seems suspiciously priced. Anyone got anything to say on that subject? Geez, look at me, yak yak yak... Anyway, plans for the future include rust abatement, a roof rack like MA's which I'll build http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=83781 (anyone know where to get the mounts?), and the SPFI conversion. Great board you've got here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subyrally Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 sounds like you have a fun project ahead of you.i am still trying to get my brat on the road, but having built my 86 rxx and started on my brat now, i know how annoying getting parts can be. i was lucky that i got a job with advance auto while i was working on hte rx. do be careful if you go to advance auto, the computers still list the wrong parts for the old school cars. make sure that you look at the pics if they are available. also, remember to take lots of pics and keep us updated on your progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinthe202 Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 sounds like you have a fun project ahead of you.i am still trying to get my brat on the road, but having built my 86 rxx and started on my brat now, i know how annoying getting parts can be. i was lucky that i got a job with advance auto while i was working on hte rx. do be careful if you go to advance auto, the computers still list the wrong parts for the old school cars. make sure that you look at the pics if they are available. also, remember to take lots of pics and keep us updated on your progress. Yeah, after two wrong mufflers, looking at pics in the computer got me the right one, sheesh. I should be taking some more pics this weekend, tho not much to look at... yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subyrally Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Yeah, after two wrong mufflers, looking at pics in the computer got me the right one, sheesh. I should be taking some more pics this weekend, tho not much to look at... yet... should have skipped the muffler hunting and gone with a universal that would give it a better tone.these cars sound great with a good free flowing muffler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondasucks Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Get the FSM for 84, all the 85+ manuals we have at work, don't have anything in them about the 85-89 hatch or 85-87 Brat. Added bonus, the 84 FSM is one volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 OK, so I call the dealer trying to locate a factory service manual for my car ('89 hatch) and the guy tells me that they didn't make them prior to '91. This has to be BS as I will stake money that the dealer repair techs did not use haynes or some other crap. I assume he means that they are discontinued. Anyone know of a place to get a FSM besides getting lucky on Feebay? Thanks! Sometime in 2005 they dropped the older (1980 to 1990) FSM part number listings from the Dealer Parts Price books. You can still order the FSMs and MicroFish (sp?) from SUBARU all the way back into the 70's. I have two older DPPBs. PM me for the part numbers and pricing. PS: Any good parts person would have a stack of older DPPBs and would be more than happy to get you the FSMs, OR call the Parts Pic guys to get the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Crap, my parts dept has the 05 and 06 books...each too new. Good thing I've got the older ones at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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