misledxcracker Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 well, stupid me got a wrong sized punch stuck inside of the roll pin on the tranny end. then, stupid me broke the punch, resulting in roll pin expansion. and icing on the cake, the real punch i needed didnt punch out the pin, but "morphed" the broken piece of punch and roll pin together, so it looks like one piece. what in the heck do i do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesley willis Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 the same thing happened to me, except the punch never broke. there was no way i was pulling it out though, so i rotated it 180 degrees and pounded the thing out with a bfh and a slightly larger punch. i used a bit of penetrating oil just because, i don't think it helped any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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[HTi]Johnson Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Wow, this sounds like when my friend and I tried to take his axle off of his ea81. I think someone managed to get the roll pin in when it was a tooth off. We were taking the tranny out anyways so we left the axle attached then removed the tranny, that was very odd. When we had it out, I stuck a cutting torch in the hole and it heated up the rollpin material way before the axle or stub got warm. Once the material was glowing we tried to punch it out, worked a little bit. So I got it red hot again and then blew it out with the torch. If you're not taking the transmission out, try heating it up, the roll pin. Make the pin red hot without making the stub or axle cup red hot, then hammer a punch through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 Oh wow, thanks. Sure helps the problem a lot. Maybe his finger will get the broken piece of punch out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Johnson Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Oh wow, thanks. Sure helps the problem a lot. Maybe his finger will get the broken piece of punch out? He's trying to up his post count (joking)...at least be somewhat constructive though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durania Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 I did the same thing tonight on my Legacy. Ended up getting my punch stuck as well, broke it off and rotated the axle so I could knock the roll pin back through the other way and grabbed it with a pair of pliers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 im just gonna take a torch to it... no way in hell is that pin coming out. I got a punch stuck in one end, then me and a buddy decided to try to punch it out from the other side, and whaddaya know, same crap happened, punch broke off. im nut and bolting the axles; this roll pin crap is ridiculous.do I have to get a special kind of torch, or will any one work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 different torches hit different temps, obviously.. but any old blowtorch ought to heat the roll pin up, the difference would only be a matter of how quickly. I am ALL about the nut and bolt method on this one, I don't like dealing with pins inside a vehicle. It is one thing to use a roll pin or a spring pin like this, on something that can be set on a workbench and worked on properly... but not on a driveshaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subi81 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Not sure if it helps in your case but I mushroomed one end of roll pin inside the doj. Ended up pounding it IN as far as it would go then cut off the end sticking out then punched it back in so it was in the center and the joint slid right off. Good luck, I think we have all been there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted January 22, 2008 Author Share Posted January 22, 2008 She's at a shop. That roll pin is coming out, whether the air chisel does it first, or the torch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nug Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Good luck, I think we have all been there. I don't give a rat's rump roast about my post count. I was giving the ol' Nelson because I've been there. You'll live, get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 I don't give a rat's rump roast about my post count. I was giving the ol' Nelson because I've been there. You'll live, get over it. Who are you talking to? Anyway... I took the car to a buddy's shop, used an air chisel and a torch... Blew out about half of the roll pin then from there, my buddy torched it while I pryed on the axle, came right out. Took us a whole five hours Now my alignment is screwed up, car seems to rather turn left than right, and it kinda feels like a "constant hydroplane". Oh yah... also, if you have both front wheels jacked up off the ground, and the car is in Park, are the wheels still supposed to turn?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 I believe the wheels will turn in oposite directions The park pawl is in the tranny and locks the differenial input shaft thus it is still open to turn it's output shafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I believe the wheels will turn in oposite directions The park pawl is in the tranny and locks the differenial input shaft thus it is still open to turn it's output shafts. I hate automatic transmissions. Thanks skip, for leading the blind. Cracker-boy, if all else fails and you need to lock the wheels up, you know the rope-in-the-cylinder trick, right? I managed to do both of my axles without doing it that way, but if you already have one wheel off then you're gonna need something to lock the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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