scrapdaddytatum Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 1997 legacy outback, where is(or is there) a fuel pump relay??? motor spins but no fuel, also guages dont all work?? any ideas?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 The fuel pump relay is behind the left side of the dash. I know there are a lot of other relays up there also but that is all my data tells me. Are some of the gauges working or are they all out? If the fuel and temperature gauge is out then there may be a problem with the regulator in the dash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVOthis Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 ...the easiest way i found to get to those relays is to remove the screws which hold the fuse block and the whole thing is one piece your can just slide it down and it comes out....its a b&*%$ trying to identify them correctly with the fuse box still up there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Fuel pump is the last thing to look at, and subary relays are fairly robust. You need air fuel and spark for ignition. Do you have the other two? Can you explain your thread title a little better, that would help. nipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 You need air fuel and spark for ignition. A little compression helps to ;^) A check of that may show some goodness or??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 put car aside for the moment but will be testing manythings soon will post more soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted January 31, 2008 Author Share Posted January 31, 2008 ok so an update on the field car new battery, main fusable link was blown replaced main link fuse no fuel pressure, no fuel, also no spark tbelt good, compression good, oil ok, coolant ok i have no history on this car, 192k on the odo all fuses are good, no chewed wires no codes?????? relays??? ecu??? both fuel and temp guages dont seem to be working new custer??? i put 5 gallons 93 in it today smells of stale gas but doesnt seem to have any water in fuel ???????????????????? im confused a bit im gonna try an ecu after dinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted January 31, 2008 Author Share Posted January 31, 2008 update ecu swap does nothing new timing belt, motor looks rebuilt hydrocarbons in antifreeze, motor rebuild 1st thing but doesnt explain, no fuel or spark, ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 slow down, you are doing many things that do not make sense. Put back the original ECU. They rarely go bad. You only test one thing at a time otherwise you will never get it started. First thing first, check to see if you have voltage at the fuel pump at the back of the car. No spark, you need to use an analog meter to test for a AC heartbeat at the cam and crank postion sensors, especially the cam. This would keep you from having spark. how are you testing for spark? Check the engine temp sensor also. I would also do a compression test. nipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 While the fuses may be good you should check to see if voltage is getting to them also with the ignition on. Some fuses feed to other fuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted January 31, 2008 Author Share Posted January 31, 2008 compression erelavent(i plan on rebuilding regardless) no voltage at fuel pump original ecu back in doing ac test now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted January 31, 2008 Author Share Posted January 31, 2008 could a bad ignition switch do this bad contact??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Get yourslef a haynes manual. you can trace back the fuel pump wiring much easier that way. Good luck im going to bow out of this one. nipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted January 31, 2008 Author Share Posted January 31, 2008 nip do i offend thee.......... it been a rough day sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I think voltage for the fuel pump is supplied through the ignition relay so you might try tapping on it to see if that changes things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 I think voltage for the fuel pump is supplied through the ignition relay so you might try tapping on it to see if that changes things. the reason i brought it up was the switch is in real chitty shape im goingto swap it out real quik and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 where is the ign. relay?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 I think it is under the dash near the steering column. I don't have access to my data right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 so i traced poer to the fuel relay relay was bad, then followed power to pump pump was bad, rusted solid, now i have fuel pressure, working on the no spark issue coil is not getting the signal to fire so im checking the cam/crank sensors in the morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 It appears you are making good progess. I suggest you check the ECU for any trouble codes. I assume power is getting to the ignition at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 It aoppears you are making good progess. I suggest you check the ECU for any trouble codes. I assume power is getting to the ignition at least. oh yeah no codes, it needed a battery first but i got a radiator to go back in it ill get it running this week im rebuilding a trans right now so i might get back to weds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdjdc Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 If you are in need of any spare parts I have a wrecked 97 outback sitting at the shop and you can pick what you want. I have the suspension for my wife's car, but the entire ignition and fuel system are still in the car. I'm right here in Richmond, so if you need a part you can come and get it or I can pull it for you. You helped me out in the past, now I can help you. Call me if you want 804-393-0516 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 If you are in need of any spare parts I have a wrecked 97 outback sitting at the shop and you can pick what you want. I have the suspension for my wife's car, but the entire ignition and fuel system are still in the car. I'm right here in Richmond, so if you need a part you can come and get it or I can pull it for you. You helped me out in the past, now I can help you. Call me if you want 804-393-0516 whats the name, i forget.....so sorry but thanks for the offer, can you send me photo of the car the way she sits(for reference) and as soon as i have a name to go with the number i will save it to my phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 and im such a traitor im on handa forum right now i feel so bad switching in between the 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdjdc Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 I'll get you a picture this afternoon or tomorrow. She looks rough since the drive train and wheels have been removed. She's up on some logs as I dismantle her, but she's got good doors. and interior. The fuel system is still there and the hood is good. My name is Mike Johnson and you sold me an engine a few years ago for my wife's loyale. I came out in my lifted GL turbo, tan in color. If you need any other info just let me know. I also have the MAF and a new radiatro for the outback inside my shed. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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