SuperchargedRS Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Well I went to install my new deck today, the old owner just spliced a old pioneer harness into the wires to I had to cut that out and put a new (sony in), well I figured I wanted to first get the deck to fire up then do in all the speakers (as I have yet to find a definitive source for what color is what). Anyway I get the constant, ign., illumination, and ground; turn the key....NOTHING....hmm try to turn the car over (for whatever reason) and NOTHING, the damn thing wont start, cranks but no start, I had just driven it like one hour before! w...t...f no fuses blown no power to the deck, but everything else works I have a low batt light on when I turn the key to accs but it still cranks fast headlights, wipers, blah blah works. but nothing to the deck? What the hell!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeshoup Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Yank out the deck, does it start now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrKrazy Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Yank out the deck, does it start now? 2nd that, mis-wired..then check your fusible links in the black box near the battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperchargedRS Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 Well the only wires I used were the ones I knew worked (as the harness to the old deck had the flags on constand ing etc., those are the only ones I used. But yea everything is out now, also pulled one speaker, but I put it back in, so now it's got all the OEM speakers in, deck out, no start, I will check the links now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperchargedRS Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 They just look like wires going from one terminal to another...how do I check em? Well just googled it, I took my mm and checked the tops of all the little jumper wires in that black box by the batt and they all show 12v. Also no fuses blown in main blade style fuse box by the drivers leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeshoup Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Fuel injection or carb? Did you at any point in time disconnect the battery terminals? If its FI, does the check engine light, or ECS light come on when you turn the key to on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperchargedRS Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 90' loyale FI didnt disconnect the terminals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durania Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 You more EA82 experienced guys think he could have fried the ECU somehow? Another thought: Have you checked all the grounds under the hood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperchargedRS Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 Well it pulled this chit once before when I was buying it, I compression tested it w/ the coil wire off. I had the drives door open the whole time, and cranked it a few times too. When I reconnected it wouldnt start (cranked normal but didnt go). The next day when I went back to pick it up started right up Dont know if this is the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 It sounds like you aren't getting spark and haven't checked both sides of the fusible links to make sure voltage is getting there. These are the wires in the black box you mentioned and sure they are making good connection also. Check to see if voltage is getting to the plus and minus sides of the ignition coil with the ignition on. If that is good see if the minus side is has voltage pulses while cranking the engine. It is best to use a test light probe for that if you have one. The light should pulse on and off if things are good there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperchargedRS Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 Well I checked both sides before w/ a multimeter and with the negative probe on ground, the postive probe on the links; all the connections were making 12v. I will check the coil now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperchargedRS Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 Well I unplugged the square connector to the coil closest to the top and it's making 11-12v (I only have a cheap little analog mm to use) but it may only be making 11v. I also tried to jump the car last night to no avail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperchargedRS Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 Welp I figured it out... Hazard, clock & horn fuse lol. life is good again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeshoup Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Welp I figured it out... Hazard clock horn fuse lol. life is good again I thought you said no fuses were blown That freaking fuse, weirds me out why it causes that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperchargedRS Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 Yea I checked all the critical fuses, then I called my local subaru shop (all wheel drive auto in Kirkland, THEY ROCK!!!) and they told me about that dumb fuse, sure enough. But in my own defense I am used to american cars (one of the purposes of this car is to keep the miles off my gas guzzlin' babys lol) so I never would of thought to check that fuse. Every car has it's learning curve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I thought you said no fuses were blown That freaking fuse, weirds me out why it causes that. Along with the areas mentioned, the fuse also supplies power for the ignition system. One easy test to see if that fuse is good is to see if the horn works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 you shorted out the single green wire at the back of the radia. i did this once and had to backfeed power thru that wire to get the ecu to come on. then i found the fuse some months later, after turning on my car witht he fog light switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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