TheBush Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I know I need two cv axles for the rear (to get the dual range 4wd working again, on my 1986 Subaru GL 2dr Hatchback), but looking at the pics below, what else do i need? a new rear hub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 You need the spindle - looks like the splined portion has sheared away. Take it apart and you will see. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBush Posted February 13, 2008 Author Share Posted February 13, 2008 So not a whole new hub? Just a spindle? Know where I can find these parts, pretty cheap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Depends on the condition of the wheel bearings if you need more than the spindle or not. As for a source - junk yard, or a member on here. They just drive the spindle out of the bearings with a dead blow or brass/copper hammer. Should not be much more than $10 - $20 at the junk yard, or ~$50 if you want the whole control arm/hub complete with bearings (easier to install). New rear bearings run about $50 a side. So unless you plan to reuse the bearings - which I probably wouldn't, but have in the past due to monetary conditions..... probably about a $10 fix if you just replace the spindle, or about a $50 - $75 fix if you replace the control arm, or install new bearings. By far the best way would be to get a used spindle, clean it up, and install new bearings. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 That looks like the back of a 2wd control arm. The adjuster bolt for the drum brake is a dead giveaway, only on 2wdsEA82 only, this is an EA81, read on. Perhaps someone replaced that arm at some point? But the strut mount is up high like a 4wd arm? 2wd spindle pounded into the 4wd arm???? IDK Does the other side look the same??? I see a mustache bar, but what about the rest? Driveshaft? Axle on the other side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durania Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Gloyale, that is a good idea. Maybe somebody was in a dire need of bearings and had some 2WD control arms laying around and threw them on and pulled the rear axles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 That looks like the back of a 2wd control arm. The adjuster bolt for the drum brake is a dead giveaway, only on 2wds. Could be an EA81 backing plate with manual adjuster too. It's really hard to tell from the pictures. Couldn't be a 2WD spindle in a 4WD arm as the spindles are WAY different and not interchangable. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Good point, he says it' a 86 2dr Hatch. So maybe it is an EA81 Hatch. I inda assummed it was an EA82 At any rate that look for all the world like a 2wd arm. So, TheBush, We need some more info here. What excact car is this? EA81 or EA82?? What's the other side look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruguru Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 its a 1986 subaru ea81 hatch 4x4 D/R he got it from some guy in wenache who is on the board but i can recal his boardname. i cant remember if he puta 2wd arm on it but i do remember him saying it would need a new rear control arm in order for the 4x4 to work. if i was you i would call the PO. also jack the car up and spin the wheel if that spins too then its a 4x4 arm that has been snaped or cut but if it dosent its a 2wd arm those came with the back side welded. so it wouldent spin with the wheel. just my .02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBush Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 4x4moose is who i got it from...hasn't been active since november... here is a pic of the drivers side (which seems to be fine, although needing an axle of course...) and maybe a better shot of the pass side one (one were debating about) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 That is definately a 4WD control arm. Refer to my previous post on how to fix it as it was correct. I'm fairly certain what you are seeing is the very tip of the DOJ joint, complete with dust sheild. It looks to have been cut - through the end of the joint, and through the splined spindle. Ostensibly because the axle was rust frozen to the splines. You can see the bearing ring nut beneath that trashed dust sheild.... GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Yeah, I see it now. Looks like a new spindle and axle is in order. Don't forget the bearing seals as well. The inner one is surely trashed. Might want to replace the bearings while you're at it. Or at least put some new grease in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 with all the work involved it may just be easier to pull the trailing arm with the axle from a junker. cnances are if the DOJ was cut off, then the 4wd nut and drum are seized(rusted) to the splines. just get a junkyard part, and change the bearing in that if you feel its necessary. but i would only worry about that after you replace the part and see how it drives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBush Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 Know anywhere to order these parts from? Junkyard doesn't seem to have much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Know anywhere to order these parts from? Junkyard doesn't seem to have much. Dealership, if you don't value your first-born. Contact Jerry (Bratsrus1). He lives in your area and may be able to direct you to a place that has what you need or may have it himself. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBush Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 Appreciate all the help... Is it possible for you to help me find the right name for the right rear control arm... Like when searching used auto parts and stuff....not sure what to look for when using the drop down menus... Control Arm, Rear Upper Control Arm, Rear Lower, And if I chose rear suspension, it gives me so many options my head spins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 You simply are not going to be able to find the control arm online through a parts lookup. And even if you do you will still need the bearings and the spindle - they don't come with a control arm. It's either a control arm, or a trailing arm - depending on who you talk to. But seriously - PM Jerry - he will be able to help you I'm sure. Frankly if it were me, I would have that thing apart in 20 minutes. Doesn't look that bad off. Pound out the old spindle with a deadblow, heat up the bearing housing around the nut area with a mapp gas torch or an oxy-torch, and spin that ring nut out with a brass drift. New bearings, a used spindle and you are down the road. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruguru Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 im just guessing here but wont any ea81 4x4 rear controll arm work ? Rob;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 im just guessing here but wont any ea81 4x4 rear controll arm work ? Correct - you win a cookie. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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