hardtail_pride Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Ok i toyed around with my timing and it seems to run best with distributor turned all the way clockwise? I thought it would be more in the middle of the range of adjustment? Is something wrong with this? And #2 my ongoing 4wd engaging battle i have checked all the hoses for vacuum leaks and nothing. My 4wd light flickers etc. I got under the Loyale and checked the linkage going into the tranny, i could move it with quite a bit of effort one handed back and forth. I had a buddy engage disengage etc multiple times while I watched the linkage and it would shift a little but not enough to engage. My best diagnosis is that the actuator (not sure what to call it) that is mounted on the drivers side of the tranny is worn out. The chamber that has both vacuum hoses connected to it. Or the cable from that actuator is sticky? Any help or experience here? Thanks much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Johnson Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 You need to put the car on 0' TDC For the #1 cylinder and then put the distributor in, pointed at the #1 plug wire. It's probably a tooth off. Then re-time per your vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Ok i toyed around with my timing and it seems to run best with distributor turned all the way clockwise? I thought it would be more in the middle of the range of adjustment? Is something wrong with this? Toyed!?! Seems?! Yes - everything is wrong with that. You need a timing light, and some clue as to what you are doing. You don't adjust timing by the stars or with tea leaves. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Johnson Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Toyed!?! Seems?! Yes - everything is wrong with that. You need a timing light, and some clue as to what you are doing. You don't adjust timing by the stars or with tea leaves. GD I assumed he used a light, probably did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail_pride Posted March 2, 2008 Author Share Posted March 2, 2008 No i did not use a light. My car runs like crap so short of taking it somewhere i tried to do something by myself. And i dont know what Jhonson was talking about. Tdc and 0 degrees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 1. But a cheap timing light. 2. Do a search for "TDC" - on here, on google, wherever. 3. Do more searches on timing, engine timing, timing adjustment, etc. 4. Feel good about helping yourself. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail_pride Posted March 2, 2008 Author Share Posted March 2, 2008 people downing me like that makes me want to get rid of my loyale. Or wreck it:grin: anyways i will look more into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Or wreck it:grin: Be my guest. EA82's are a dime a dozen. Loyales are especially common, and especially low end. There's not a single part on them I want. You'll only be hurting yourself. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 You need a timing light, and some clue as to what you are doing. You don't adjust timing by the stars or with tea leaves. He's right. we aren't *downing* on you, we're jut telling ya the truth. You'll end up with hole in you're pistons or a melted and pitted deck that' no good. Get a timing light and set you're timing using the alignment marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokebill Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 i finally had to buy a $40 advance auto light (thanks Skip still working on the old style light , it will work great with my old Falcon) and i had the belts a tooth off and also had to turn the distributor all the way to get it to run(but didnt last) after setting the timing belts right and setting the timing with a light, i found i could advance it a couple degrees and it increased power considerably and evened out a low end flat spot that had always been in the car. But, you NEED a timing light to set it right and be able to slightly adjust to your cars preferance. I did learn this the hard way! hope this helps. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonicfrog Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Two of the best / most indespensible tools you'll use when working on any car, let alone a Subaru, are a good induction timing light, and a good torque wrench. Best..... Purchases.... EVER!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferox Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 If you interpret people's responses to this thread as a little frustrated it's because you are asking for help before you have taken the time to look into it yourself. Setting the timing and properly installing the distributor is really easy, and really important. I would suggest buying a timing light and a manual for your car. The manual will describe those procedures step by step. All you have to do is follow the instructions. Once you have done it a couple times it will seem so simple you will wonder why you didn't spend a half hour learning and doing it sooner. If you are frustrated with your car, you will have an overwhelming sense of satisfaction when you learn and do these two simple things and your engine smooths out and hums. You will also basically know the general procedure for doing this on any car. There are variations, but the basic principles are the same. Do this, and report back to us on how much nicer it drives. You are going to be absolutely stoked at how much better it is, and feel good that you did it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail_pride Posted March 3, 2008 Author Share Posted March 3, 2008 I knew i wouldnt be able to dial it in my shear guess work, i was trying to get an idea on how badly my situation was. After driving the car for a year I didnt know if it could drive better or worse. Checking my timing was one solution to a shaky motor problem and hesitation that someone suggested, and short of buying a light i tried some backyard wrenching. It helped me realize 2 things. My disty wasnt installed correctly by someone, and that yes my car is not timed right. I did research in the archives on how to do timing but it apparently didnt register clearly with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdjdc Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Go and buy a Haynse Manual ans it will give you step by step instructions on everything you may want to do to the car. They are very inexpensive and very very helpful. I wouldn't even try to work on a Sube without one. The guys here are only trying to encourage you to work on the car responsibly. To go blindly into the engine compartment and tinker is a receipe for disaster. Don't be afraid to work on it, just be a little informed before you begin. It will save you many headaches and give you an intense feeling of satisfaction when you realize that you have fised the problems without a mechanics help. We are also here for help and feel free to contact us with questions. I have been on both the receiving and the giving ends while a member of this board. Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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