scrapdaddytatum Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 i have replaced both speed sensors with new subaru parts and 3 different clusters, all to the same effect, BOUNCY SPEEDO seems to work as long as my foot is on the accelerater ???????????????????????????????????? j Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAezb Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Are the other gauges functioning normally? Does your vehicle shift ok, no jolts or hesitation? Is the bounce of the needle consistant or varies wildly? Does the bounce occur if you manually put the transmission in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, Drive, Reverse? Does the CEL come on? Describe what happens when you take your foot off the pedal, does the needle fall back to zero? Possibilities: Intermittant break in the cable or connector to sensors or gauges An issue with the ECU/TCU with regards to the signal coming from the VSS sensors. Problem with the mechcanical "tab" drive mating the tranning to VSS-2 Long shot - try discconnect battery to reset ECU Other than that I don't know what to tell you to try. Anyone else....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 as long as my foot is on the accelarater it will hold at the speed im going(i think) as soon as i let off, it will drop to zero now on occasion it will hold, but not often so when i am in traffic it starts bouncing becouse im off and on the pedal seems to work the same in any gear trans seems to shift good, motor is running tops scanner is saying the fuel, exhuast, ign, all operating good all seems good except the speedo and the a/c but god only knows whats wrong with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 and the ecu has been reset a dozen times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 trying tcu now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 nope no difference, ecu next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted March 27, 2008 Author Share Posted March 27, 2008 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zstalker Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 what year/model/engine/transmission? that makes a huge difference... ~Erik~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 what year/model/engine/transmission? that makes a huge difference...~Erik~ 1997 legacy outback 2.5l 4eat what do you think you know i have run out of ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Nylon drive gear on the differential is buggered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 i think your right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Nylon drive gear on the differential is buggered. Yup, the torque from the engine may put just enough twist on the shaft and bearings to make good contact with the VSS. Eventually this wont work anymore either. nipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 i can live with this what the new problem is this code 1507 idle control valve issue new post.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Neutral saftey switch. nipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 Neutral saftey switch. nipper yeah i ordered one, monday but all the posts i read refer to the 5mt with this problem and i got a 4eat, is the part the same i wonder??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 It still has a NSS nipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 It still has a NSS nipper whats a NSS??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 whats a NSS??? oh a nuetral safty switch i should be spade but is it the exact same part to have the same failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 oh a nuetral safty switchi should be spade but is it the exact same part to have the same failure but i guess also the ecu/tcu use the signal the same way regardless if its the eact same part...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 It still has a NSS nipper That function is built into the gear selector indicator. Actually a Park/Nuetral safety switch. The ECU just uses the signal for the P and N lights. I don't think it's failing would cause an idle issue on an automatic. I would think it's a a problem with the IAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 That function is built into the gear selector indicator. Actually a Park/Nuetral safety switch. It just uses the signal for the P and N lights. I don't think it's failing would cause an idle issue on an automatic. I would think it's a a problem with the IAC search 1507, its not the iac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Tht switch is P R N D 3 2 1. It has many uses. Its not a just a start interlock switch. It also tells the TCU and ECU what gear the car is in. It just doesnt turn lights on and off. nipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapdaddytatum Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 Tht switch is P R N D 3 2 1. It has many uses. Its not a just a start interlock switch. It also tells the TCU and ECU what gear the car is in. It just doesnt turn lights on and off. nipper but when i ordered it, it was a different part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Tht switch is P R N D 3 2 1. It has many uses. Its not a just a start interlock switch. It also tells the TCU and ECU what gear the car is in. It just doesnt turn lights on and off. Actually that is all it does, is complete contact for each position. Now some of the positions(P/N) are wired in to the ECU and Cruise, etc..., but just as signal. The ECU sees voltage at a certain pins(when the light for that gear is illuminated) and interpruts it. The switch itself is nothing but simple sets of contacts. Splitting hairs I guess. I just wanted to point out that this part doesn't have *logic* or any computing function. One could test if a poor connection in the switch was culprit by simply using jumper wires to simulate the switch being closed for a given circuit (P, N, D, etc...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 search 1507, its not the iac It is: IDLE CONTROL SYSTEM MALFUNCTION (FAIL SAFE) What do you think control the idle? The Idle Air Control Vavle (IAC)!!! It is not the only possibility, but a good place to start. Perhaps it has a loose hose? Loose connection? You can't just dismiss it without checking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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