msmithmmx Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I failed the PA State Inspection today here is the list. It cost me 31 bucks to fail and I have 2 weeks to fix it all or I get charged again. Just venting. My 98 OBW has 190K 1) Need new back brakes (70 bucks with rotors) 2) Need new parking brake shoes and adjustment (70 bucks) 3) Front left Wheel bearing (100 bucks) 4) Front left tire (ordered, 71 bucks) 5) Need duplicate vehicle regestration, because I lost mine (7.50) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdrsubaru Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 be glad it wasnt emissions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithmmx Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 That could be next, I have a leak at the spring joint that I can't fix..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdrsubaru Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 why cant you fix it? its easy buy a new gasket and slap in there, or are the ends too rusted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithmmx Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 The end on the cat side is so thin from it rusing away it will not pull tight enough. I need to install a replacement flange. DOES IT EVER END Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdrsubaru Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 use some big washers on each side of the bolt, and add some nuts to keep the washers in place, that way you dont have to replace your cat right now and get that gasket replaced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp98 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 One more thing is that if you need to replace one tire you need to replace all 4 because of the AWD system. That is unless the other 3 tires are like new. I don't remember but all the tires should be within a certain diamater or else you will cause yourself more grief when the drive train starts to fail. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdjdc Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Look at it this way, A car payment today is in the 400.00 range and your repairs will be near one payment. Not a bad investment. I'd rather put the money in and have the payment stop than to have five years of slavery. By the way, I have a set of rear rotors if you want them. If they are actually going to replace the rear shoes and rotors and pads for 140.00 you are very lucky. Last time I looked up the e-brake shoes the kit was 300.00. That didn't include the rotor. I also have a set of rear pads in good shape. Let me know if you have an interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine73 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 That's not too bad a list I guess. The rear brakes and parking hardware isn't too hard to do. Of course the tires should all match within 1/4" circumference to avoid excessive wear and possibly developing the dreaded torque bind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I really see nothing there to complain about except for timing. 3 of the 5 are saftey items, and if you include the leaking flex joint, thats a saftey item too. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSRBIKER Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 How important is that flex joint to have the springs? I had to use regular bolts on mine to get it tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I failed the PA State Inspection today here is the list. It cost me 31 bucks to fail and I have 2 weeks to fix it all or I get charged again. Just venting. My 98 OBW has 190K 1) Need new back brakes (70 bucks with rotors) 2) Need new parking brake shoes and adjustment (70 bucks) 3) Front left Wheel bearing (100 bucks) 4) Front left tire (ordered, 71 bucks) 5) Need duplicate vehicle regestration, because I lost mine (7.50) The parking brake is what gets me. Are they serious?? I've never seen a set of e-brake shoes worn to the point of needing replacement. Just an adjustment should be fine. Can you do this work yourself? Or do they make you go to a shop? Pennsylvania seems to be one of the worst states for all this inspection crap. I think it's criminal that they salt the roads to destroy you're car, then force you to go through inspection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 In california, especially San Francisco, your parking brake must work. It makes sens in PA since on a hill your supposed to use the parking brake with a manual or automatic. In SF you can a ticket for not using your parking brake. There may be other states that have it as a requirement. Most the time just using the parking brake will avoid it from getting rusty. You may mock it untill your car gets hit by someone with a failed parking brake (I have). nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hohieu Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 The parking brake is what gets me. Are they serious?? I've never seen a set of e-brake shoes worn to the point of needing replacement. Not a Subaru example, but when I did the brakes on my mother-in-law's Grand Cherokee, the e-brake shoes were shot - lining was completely absent. I was very surprised, but if you leave the parking brake engaged for long stretches of time, they could seize & wear down. The more amazing thing is that they took off the rear rotors to check. If they didn't do this, just try adjusting the shoes and then the e-brake cables under the console as already suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 The more amazing thing is that they took off the rear rotors to check. If they didn't do this, just try adjusting the shoes and then the e-brake cables under the console as already suggested. That was my thought. That's why I asked if you could do the work yourself. I doubt they actually did take off the rotor. Just pulled and got nothing so they said "all new everything" for that system, the typical repair shop/liability/cover your rump roast line of thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithmmx Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 I am doing the work myself. There is no way they pulled the rotors off to check the shoes. They pulled the lever and got nothing.... Work starts tommorow on this car. My guess is 2 nights after work should do it. on my list of things to do all they wanted to do is replace the front tire. I am addressing the wheel bearing because it has been making anwefull noise for 20K miles and I sure is the cause of the inside of the wheel being bald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Make sure you measure a good tire, then match up a tire with it. Otherwise that will come back to bite you in the tail later on. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdjdc Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Adjust the brake before you get in there and replace. My wife's car had no e-brake, 10 minutes of adjusting and she's fine now. Easier and cheaper. If the rotor is bad, then you will have to pull it and then you can get an idea of the wear on the shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithmmx Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 I changed the rotors, pad and e-brake shoes, what a mess. All of the listed parts where completely shoot. I am a little embarrassed I let it get so bad. There was nothing left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 don't feel bad. that's why the state requires the inspection, as long as they will go forward, most of us will drive them. some times it's good to have BIG BROTHER looking over our shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine73 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Yes that's pretty much how the parking brake components were on my '00obw when I did that job. The pads had enough friction material left but the whole assembly and springs were completely rusted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithmmx Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 It does not end. On the way to get it re-inspected I broke down. The Alternator seized up. Now that I am nearing 200K I am getting hit left and right. I forgot to mention that I also have a bad inner tie rod that was causing the inner ware on the front tire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brus brother Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Now that I am nearing 200K ... Shoddy workmanship! Find your receipt and get a full refund on that car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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