jWheels

[The Dude Abides]

It seems that alot of people who look to add some handling or looks to there car automaticaly think pugs. My question is that with what the aftermarket is today why not go 6 lug. With toyota, mazda, and chevy wheels fitting the 6 lug altercation why not go this route. You are likely to get some lightweight wheels in almost any application you wish. Size and width polished, aluminum. It seems endless. So why not go 6 lugs with more wheel options then just pugs which are harder to find.

 

Ben

[beataru]

My pugs are beautiful... :-p I dont think some of us want to go through the work, if not hard at all, to change the lugs around. If anything I would go with the 5 lug, ej brakes, suspension, ect.

[audio_file]

i looked at this option for a bit, but really, all of those 6 lug applications are suv's and truck's. their wheels are required to tow/haul/support more weight than an old Pugeot, therefore 98.2% of the time, they will be made of a heavier material, i.e. steel, instead of aluminum. when they are made of an alloy, the still have to be strong enough to be in that "light truck" class, and so they're still pretty hefty.

 

one option i've never seen discussed is going with a very high end, true "racing wheel" like this one from RAY'S available in a 6x139.7 app. . .but you better have the $$$

 

http://www.mackinindustries.com/md/rays/te37x.html

 

going price: a little over $600ea, and i wouldn't want to re-drill them (and i don't think you can even have them custom built to the offset we'd need :-\

 

chris

[TeamCF]

Cause my set of 505 steelies were only around $30 from the JY.

Plus I just beat on 'em so pretty was not a concern.

 

I see what you are saying though. A common pattern does give lots more choices.

I always thought the 6 lug wheels were too wide/wrong offset for anything other than a lifted rig though (as in they stick out). I may be wrong.

[The Dude Abides]

Cause my set of 505 steelies were only around $30 from the JY.

Plus I just beat on 'em so pretty was not a concern.

 

I see what you are saying though. A common pattern does give lots more choices.

I always thought the 6 lug wheels were too wide/wrong offset for anything other than a lifted rig though (as in they stick out). I may be wrong.

 

Might be easier for you folks to find pugs in your neck of the woods but here in the midwest i bet its darn imposible. Your right about the weight which is what i considered and i thought the offset and the width on some of the wheels (mazda) werent that bad. I duno i guess ill just keep the 13s on till i can con mcbrat from the chrome ones on his blue brat:)

 

Ben

[zukiru]

Might be easier for you folks to find pugs in your neck of the woods but here in the midwest i bet its darn imposible. Your right about the weight which is what i considered and i thought the offset and the width on some of the wheels (mazda) werent that bad. I duno i guess ill just keep the 13s on till i can con mcbrat from the chrome ones on his blue brat:)

 

Ben

 

I'm with you on this my uncle has a junk yard and I never see pugs..

I'm going to put the H wheels on off my parts car.

but something has to give!

 

the xt6 rear parts needed for 5 lug are rarer here than the pugs.

(in fact my XT and the only other 4 or so i've seen in the area are all DLs)

[Gloyale]

I always thought the 6 lug wheels were too wide/wrong offset for anything other than a lifted rig though (as in they stick out). I may be wrong.

 

 

Chevy rims sticck out.

 

Toyotas and Nissans not so much.

 

14 inch Mazda b2200 rims are a perfect fit and had some pretty sharp factory alloys.

[beataru]

one option i've never seen discussed is going with a very high end, true "racing wheel" like this one from RAY'S available in a 6x139.7 app. . .but you better have the $$$

 

http://www.mackinindustries.com/md/rays/te37x.html

 

going price: a little over $600ea, and i wouldn't want to re-drill them (and i don't think you can even have them custom built to the offset we'd need :-\

 

chris

 

You can just buy the copies, there just as good although sometimes a wee bit heavier, and theyre alot cheaper, they might not come in the color that the rays do. If I do a 5 lug i may look into some enkei's (look into, probably never buy)

[audio_file]

You can just buy the copies

 

there are no copies of that exact wheel . . . 6 lugs are not easily available in the aftermarket car realm, although you may be right about Enkei, they do make a "race wheel" as well, I've just never seen it in a 6 lug . . . (?) still would probably be 400-500 each.

 

easiest is still going to be 1) re-drill 6 lug truck wheel 2) find pugs 3) go 5 lug/buy a newer subaru

 

chris

[Gloyale]

 

easiest is still going to be 1) re-drill 6 lug truck wheel 2) find pugs 3) go 5 lug/buy a newer subaru

 

chris

 

 

Remember the whole lowered minitruck fad????

 

There are TONS of aftermarket option for alloys in 6 lug. And like I sadi.

 

Mazda b2200 pickups had at least 3 different kinds of sweet alloy wheels.

 

heres just one aftermarket http://slammedb22.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/red_mazda_up_in_front.jpg

[audio_file]

Remember the whole lowered minitruck fad????

 

 

i was part of the "whole minitruck fad" with a bagged and bodydropped old body S-10 . . .

 

the point i'm trying to make is that you're still dealing with a truck wheel and at least when it came to trying to find wheels for my RX, i didn't want to use a truck wheel. . . never mind the offset ruining the wheel bearings issue . . . and the heavier weight (most of the time)

[Gloyale]

i was part of the "whole minitruck fad" with a bagged and bodydropped old body S-10 . . .

 

the point i'm trying to make is that you're still dealing with a truck wheel and at least when it came to trying to find wheels for my RX, i didn't want to use a truck wheel. . . never mind the offset ruining the wheel bearings issue . . . and the heavier weight (most of the time)

 

B2200 wheels have a perfect offset for Soobs. So do early Isuzu Trooper wheels.

[Gloyale]

My pugs are beautiful... :-p I dont think some of us want to go through the work, if not hard at all, to change the lugs around. If anything I would go with the 5 lug, ej brakes, suspension, ect.

 

 

5 lug swap is WAAAAAAY more work. Six lug modification just requires drilling 16 holes. Easy with a Drill press.

[beataru]

there are no copies of that exact wheel . . . 6 lugs are not easily available in the aftermarket car realm, although you may be right about Enkei, they do make a "race wheel" as well, I've just never seen it in a 6 lug . . . (?) still would probably be 400-500 each.

 

easiest is still going to be 1) re-drill 6 lug truck wheel 2) find pugs 3) go 5 lug/buy a newer subaru

 

chris

 

yeah I know what you mean, sorry I was totaly thinking 5 lugs for the EJ's

[audio_file]

5 lug swap is WAAAAAAY more work. Six lug modification just requires drilling 16 holes. Easy with a Drill press.

 

+eleventymillion

chris

[crazyhorse001]

Cadillac CTS-V wheels are 6-lug...see pic

 

Viper wheels are 6-lug

 

Light, hi-performance wheels can be had in 6-lug applications. The new gen performance cars use truck components. (the Viper uses Dakota parts)

[bheinen74]

I know a j/y in IA with pugs.

i got my last 2 split spokes at the place, had to pay 50 each wheel with lug nutz.....very pricey, but no one had a sset willing to ship to me,

 

Might be easier for you folks to find pugs in your neck of the woods but here in the midwest i bet its darn imposible. Your right about the weight which is what i considered and i thought the offset and the width on some of the wheels (mazda) werent that bad. I duno i guess ill just keep the 13s on till i can con mcbrat from the chrome ones on his blue brat:)

 

Ben

[The Dude Abides]

which junkyard

 

Ben

[beataru]

I know a j/y in IA with pugs.

i got my last 2 split spokes at the place, had to pay 50 each wheel with lug nutz.....very pricey, but no one had a sset willing to ship to me,

 

You only had to pay 50 bucks a wheel?

[zukiru]

Where do I get these?

 

 

 

like last week, lol

[Numbchux]

if pug alloys don't offer the performance gains (minimal, at best). anything better is pointless because you still have crappy suspension and crappy brakes.

 

a 5-lug swap with some subaru steelies is going to yield much more significant performance gains than any wheel you can throw on 4-lug hubs. $600 a wheel is stupid when you're still running 242mm single piston front brakes with 226mm single piston rears. and the best shock/strut combo you can use are GR2s.

 

 

 

if you're really looking for performance gains, the only reason to stay 4-lug is for AutoX class reasons, in which case, you can't upgrade wheel size anyway. Look at WJM's RX (well.....when he was racing the RX or Wagon). he was racing on subaru 13" alloys.

 

 

and yes, MOST 6-lug wheels are much heavier than a pug. I don't know about the cadillac, but vipers weigh as much as a small truck (if not more)......those are going to be some extremely hefty wheels. not to mention the fact that they're 10"+ wide.

[Gloyale]

Check these out.

 

http://salem.craigslist.org/pts/650035552.html

 

Those are sweet wheels.

 

B2200 FTW

[cobcob]

OI!! Found some KILLER rims on tirerack... 16" for $59 each!!

 

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialPartNumber=9066K27PSL&wheelMake=AT+Italia&wheelModel=Presa&wheelFinish=Sil+w%2FPol+Stainless+Lip&showRear=no&autoMake=Chevrolet&autoModel=Avalanche+2wd&autoYear=2006&autoModClar=&filterSize=16&filterFinish=All&filterSpecial=false&filterBrand=All&filterNew=All&sort=Brand

 

Here's a listing of vehicles I've found with the 6x139.7 pattern:

 

Chevy:

1500 Pickup

Avalanche (2wd)

 

Mistubishi:

Montero

 

Nissan:

Exterra

 

Toyota:

4Runner

Sequoia

Landcruiser

Tundra / T100

 

(From: http://www.megaperformance.com/boltpatterns.html)

 

If you're wanting to go BIG (as in around a 20" rim etc) maybe look at the 8x139.7 lug pattern and just bolt on 4 of the lugs... better upgrade them brakes though!