NuclearBacon Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Hello to all! Got that 87 GL-10 and let me tell you a few things that kinda pissed me off.... First i didnt pass because of visual. that just makes me angry. if my car isnt polluting, WHY cant it pass??? grrr (gripe gripe *************** moan) ok! so i just got a set of gen 3 heads, and when i grabbed them, i also grabbed the intake plenum, and some other things. Check this out... The top one is mine with that baffle thingie on it. when i grabbed the second one off of the gen 3 motor, i noticed it didnt have a baffle. thinking nothing of it, i grabbed it (since mine has a few cracks around the inlets). this intake piece is TOO SHORT!!!!! by an inch! what the CRAP!? So! I need the following..... 1) Idle Purge control thingie shown here... and from the above picture, an intake plenum with baffle (i guess, my car is an 87) and hoses 1, 2, and 3. if they're hard as rocks and wont come off that plastic hose, i'll take that as well.... SO! 1) Intake from MAF to Turbo inlet 2) Idle Purge (whatever its called) 3) Hoses 1, 2, 3 THANK YOU!!!! (should i post also in the parts wanted??)_ I cannot get my car back on the road without these things, and they have to not be cracked. STUPID SMOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can paypal TODAY to get stuff moving... i need to pass smog!! thanks!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubaruJunkie Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 The JY here in sac should have all that. Maybe your local JY too. Im stuck at work so I cant help. Sorry luigi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuclearBacon Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 no worries man! thanks for the reply, i dont think theres any turbo cars here in chico, i'll be in the bay area on the 9th of may, maybe i'll hit it up then. the guy said my car looked like it would breeze thorugh emmissions, so i just have to get the idle down (its at 1300, instead of 800, probbaly because of that broken idle valve.... the physical nipple broke off the unit) and get those hoses replaced and plenum taken care of.. ... and i SHOULD be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubaruJunkie Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 If you make it to sac let me know. I'm certain you will find a EA82T in the sac yard. There are always at least one or two when I go. Maybe this weekend I'll hit it up, there are some things I need for my legacy i keep putting off. -Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuclearBacon Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 i'd be willing to pay (odvously) for the parts and for your time if you find that stuff... that would be super sweet... i'll hit the JY either today or tomorrow here and see what i can see.... until then if anyone has these parts... please PM me!!! or email ---> nuclearbacon@hotmail.com Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 and from the above picture, an intake plenum with baffle (i guess, my car is an 87) and hoses 1, 2, and 3. if they're hard as rocks and wont come off that plastic hose, i'll take that as well.... SO! 1) Intake from MAF to Turbo inlet 2) Idle Purge (whatever its called) 3) Hoses 1, 2, 3 For #1, I've had good luck *repairing* them. Completely degreaseing the whole boot inside and out. In the kitchen sink, with tons of Dish soap. After drying, filling gaps with a bit of RTV wiping away any excess. Then wraping tightly and repeatedly with electrical tape. If you can lay the tape tight and without folds, it might not be noticed. I use real hose clamps for the PCV hoses, instead of the original spring type clips. For #2, that solenoid can be replaced with one from other types of vehichles from the 90's. Isuzu, Honda, Nissan, Toyota, or even newer Subarus. You have to get one that is the right type (normally open or closed, vented or non) but any JY should have one somewhere that can be used. For #3, 5/8th Evap rated hose is available from Carquest, Napa, and others. Doesn't have to have the funky bends. The Plastic *F* shaped unit can be replaced with a simple *T* to make hose routing easier. 3 inlets either way. 1 and 2 may not fly for the Smog guys, but 3 should be completely acceptable, provided you use Evap hose. SSK (Subaru, Suzuki, Kia in Rancho Cordova will likely have the intake and a solenoid) Once you button all that up, there is a good chance you're idle will drop to normal. If not, and there are no other vacuum leaks, the idle can be adjusted by the recessed screw on the back side of the Throttle Body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuclearBacon Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 GLOYALE YOU ARE AWESOME thats great! i'm going to get on as soon as i can. i'll hit up the JY by my house, and if no go, i'll get ahold of them. thanks! i'll keep everyone posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Or just go to someone that'll "smog" your car. I usually don't condone this kind of stuff, but I know the crooked smog shops are still around, and California smog is such BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubaruJunkie Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Or just go to someone that'll "smog" your car. I usually don't condone this kind of stuff, but I know the crooked smog shops are still around, and California smog is such BS. When smog shops run your vehicle through the tester, it logs your vehicle information and the shops information. It then forwards this info to the DMV. If later on down the road, you get pulled over by a cop. And he visually inspects your car and notices its not smog worthy, the DMV will then contact the shop who passed you, and they will most likely do an investigation. For this reason, most smog shops will not just "smog" your car. Ive had a couple places refuse to test my RX because the engine code did not match the VIN. They don't even want to risk the chance of anything comming back on them. Its a pretty messed up scenario. Its not just the emissions we gotta deal with anylonger. -Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Well, there went that idea. I did it a couple of years back, and had an offer to have it done (for a higher cost) about eight months ago on the coupe. They aren't called "smog nazis" for no reason, now are they? Too bad you're not close to Arizona.... that's the ONE reason you could stop by and visit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsoobdude Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 SSK (Subaru, Suzuki, Kia in Rancho Cordova will likely have the intake and a solenoid).Hate to say it but they don't deal in the EA series any more, just the EJs now. Tried finding parts for my EA82 through them and they laughed at me. Not to mention they charge an arm and a leg ($1000 for USED WRX front and H6 rear brakes for the brake upgrade for my Outback) and don't REALLY know that much about Subies (went in looking for an LSD for my Outback and they say Subaru quit making them in the 80s, meaning no the RS's didn't have them as an option nor the newer Outbacks:confused: ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukiru Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 I have the intake pipe but it is missing the hoses. will that help you? I can look I may have some of these hoses laying in the carport (the intake pipe is yours if it will help you.):cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuclearBacon Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 does anyone know if that purge control solonoid thing is the same for loyalles or NA EA82's?? headin to the jy again to check inventory. thanks! Also Zukiru had the baffle-less Intake tube (thank you for looking!) , so i still need it!!!! Anyone!? and! why in the world is the one i grabbed shorter then the baffle one?? whats different? it seems theres a specific engineered reason for it... does anyone know? thanks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 and! why in the world is the one i grabbed shorter then the baffle one?? whats different? it seems theres a specific engineered reason for it... does anyone know? thanks!!! The shorter one is for early Flapper MAF style engines. 85,86 all and early 87 XT turbo. You need one for 87+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuclearBacon Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 The shorter one is for early Flapper MAF style engines. 85,86 all and early 87 XT turbo. You need one for 87+ awesome... thats what i wanted to hear! ...now if only someone had an extra one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuclearBacon Posted May 8, 2008 Author Share Posted May 8, 2008 can i bump myself? still need one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 can i bump myself? still need one! If you can bump yourself I can Quote myself from earlier in this thread. "I've had good luck *repairing* them. Completely degreaseing the whole boot inside and out. In the kitchen sink, with tons of Dish soap. After drying, filling gaps with a bit of RTV wiping away any excess. Then wrapping tightly and repeatedly with black electrical tape. If you can lay the black tape tight and without folds, it might not be noticed. I use real hose clamps for the PCV hoses, instead of the original spring type clips." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuclearBacon Posted May 12, 2008 Author Share Posted May 12, 2008 thats a great idea, and i read it both times you posted (hehe) i just dont want to get there, and they point at it and say, sorry... and i'm out another 45 dollars.. and thats how it would go.. so! if i can just buy a non-cracked one, then im golden, yes? thats my angle, thank you for the idea though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 .. so! if i can just buy a non-cracked one, then i'm golden, yes? Well, there in lies the problem. Even the best ones I've ever seen still have the beginings of cracks, and need some wrapping/resealing. Ordering a brand new one would be $500 bucks or some crazy price. You could have one Fabricated out of thin metal tube of appropriate diameter, and use silicon boots at the ends to clamp it in place. I would think they would have to accept that. Remember, that tube is NOT an emmision device. It is a tube with five holes. 2 at the ends, 2 for pcv(5/8"), 1 for evap(1/4"). Make a tube with the appropriate holes and the engine will never know the difference. As long as the replacement tube is sealed, and has all the PCV hoses hooked into it properly, all of you're original emmisions components will be functioning excactly like stock. Make a fuss, demand a *referee* if you have to. Take it to a different smog guy if you have to. It will be less work and cheaper than buying a non cracked intake tube. They basically don't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presslab Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Mine was cracked and leaking so I bought a new one here, about a year ago: https://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getLocator&siteid=213882&chapter=ANL730&appSectionid=6&groupid=10024&subgroupid=20148&componentid=62287&make=32&model=Wagon&year=1987&catalogid=1 $59 isn't too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Mine was cracked and leaking so I bought a new one here, about a year ago: https://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getLocator&siteid=213882&chapter=ANL730&appSectionid=6&groupid=10024&subgroupid=20148&componentid=62287&make=32&model=Wagon&year=1987&catalogid=1 $59 isn't too bad. Uhh, that listing says *all models* 85-89. which cannot be correct, 87+ are different. He'd need assurance that he was getting the correct one. But I guess that is a good price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presslab Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Uhh, that listing says *all models* 85-89. which cannot be correct, 87+ are different. He'd need assurance that he was getting the correct one. But I guess that is a good price. Yeah pretty sure that's the one I ordered, but I agree it's best to call them up. They have great service and they'll give you the right part number to order off the web site. I've ordered a bunch from those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil9er Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Glad we dont have to go thru that crap here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuclearBacon Posted May 17, 2008 Author Share Posted May 17, 2008 yeah this has been a freakin nightmare.... stupid smog... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountaingoatgruff Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 yeah this has been a freakin nightmare.... stupid smog... just wait till i finish jumping through the hoops for those fascists to get my spfi'ed hatch tagged! i'm waiting to share so i can post it all at once... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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