zukiru Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 I have an 86 XT 4 banger FWD are front and rear EA non turbo axles the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 Rear axles are very different to front in all Subaru's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 yea, what are you asking? a FWD car doesn't have rear axles..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukiru Posted May 4, 2008 Author Share Posted May 4, 2008 see it old you it was stupid.. I was wondering if my fwd front axles could be used on a 4wd rear assembly IE are my FWD front axles the same as Rear axles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 front axles have to "turn" when you steer. rear axles stay straight, totally different...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukiru Posted May 4, 2008 Author Share Posted May 4, 2008 ^^ lol no I do know that all of them use CV joints at both ends....... NEXT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukiru Posted May 4, 2008 Author Share Posted May 4, 2008 maybe I'll get some better answers if I put it on out there. I have an 86 FWD and an 85 turbo part time 4wd turbo Was going to use the rear end drive shaft and tranny from the part time car locked in 4wd but with no front axles. but the axles on the 4WD car are ALL toast. so I was wondering if my FWD axles will work with the rear diff and suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 if your 4WD axles are all toast....then there's no axles on your FWD that will fit in the rear of your 4WD. does that help? i have two axles that might be EA82 axles...they are 25 spline. i bought them for my XT6 and they aren't for an XT6, i'm thinking they just shipped me EA82 axles. if you're interested, hit me up as i don't need them....well i should check my XT Turbo axles first....but let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukiru Posted May 4, 2008 Author Share Posted May 4, 2008 the FWD is fine for now and will be left alone till after the XT dragon meet. but I may use the part time trans for RWD when the EJ25 goes in... maybe. thanks for the info Gary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 ^^ lol no I do know that all of them use CV joints at both ends.......NEXT! Clearly you don't know much, because the only simple "CV" joint used in an EA is the front outer joint. The rest are Double Offset Joints, which are a specific type of Constant Velocity joint that allows for stretch. It is not, however, refered to as a CV as that is not descriptive of it's entire function. Also not all EA series used DOJ's in the rear - they used to use u-joint axles like the Z cars in the 70's. At any rate, rear axles are always different. They have nothing in common with fronts on any Subaru. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 yea, not even similar. the spindle (part that the hub and bearings ride on) is part of the axle on the front, and a separate piece in the rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukiru Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 Clearly you don't know much, because the only simple "CV" joint used in an EA is the front outer joint. The rest are Double Offset Joints, which are a specific type of Constant Velocity joint that allows for stretch. It is not, however, refered to as a CV as that is not descriptive of it's entire function. Also not all EA series used DOJ's in the rear - they used to use u-joint axles like the Z cars in the 70's. At any rate, rear axles are always different. They have nothing in common with fronts on any Subaru. GD the XTs in question all have a cup/bearing/boot setup... what about that isn't a CV joint? you may have a different word for it... thank you for the info that they are different though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 the XTs in question all have a cup/bearing/boot setup...what about that isn't a CV joint? you may have a different word for it... The rest are Double Offset Joints, which are a specific type of Constant Velocity joint that allows for stretch. It is not, however, refered to as a CV as that is not descriptive of it's entire function. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukiru Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 edit. I am trying to be a nicer guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukiru Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 yea, not even similar. the spindle (part that the hub and bearings ride on) is part of the axle on the front, and a separate piece in the rear. yes I have based most of my knowledge of the axle assembies off the inner construction of the axles as I have yet to tear into any hub/spindle set-ups thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 How about this. Front shafts have the stub attached to the shaft that goes through the bearing to hold it all together. Rear shafts slide onto a stub with a spline just like on the inner side that is always held in the bearing. Some EA82's had two DOJ on the rear shafts and some had DOJ inner CV outer. All EA81's had DOJ inner and outer on the rear. DOJ allows in and out movement plus rotational movement. CV only allow rotational movement. I know, answering an already answered question. But it's fun. :-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyko Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Your question has been more than answered, so I don't feel bad about going off topic now. Does your FWD have all the mounting points for a rear wheel drive setup? A user over on the XT forums, mr.radon, did a write up for an over haul and conversion from FWD to AWD on an XT6 he planned to enter in the Alcan Rally. Might be good for you to check out because he had to add some mounting points. Actually I’ve got to post a warning to the folks out there. The 2WD XT6’s have four very important bolt holes missing. The rear differential support has two bolts per side to attach the differential support to the bottom of the frame. The template for the holes exist as the photo shows, but the second layer of sheet metal isn’t punched, nor are there any nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukiru Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 Your question has been more than answered, so I don't feel bad about going off topic now. Does your FWD have all the mounting points for a rear wheel drive setup? A user over on the XT forums, mr.radon, did a write up for an over haul and conversion from FWD to AWD on an XT6 he planned to enter in the Alcan Rally. Might be good for you to check out because he had to add some mounting points. I have read several write ups.. I am hoping to do a one-piece drive shaft (welded and rebalanced) and then the mustache bars are just long bolts added. so I am prepared there. I will either wind up AWD or Fulltime D/R or RWD.. just depends on how things play out. in other words anything but Front Wheel drive... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukiru Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 oh and if I have to add the center bearing it'll be alright... I'll just take pics of the tabs for whoever does the welding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukiru Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 sweet pics in that link thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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