2000outback Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 I just bought a timing belt kit on Ebay and when I got it there is a warning stating that Subaru used two different belts from 2000 up and that this one might not be right.Before I bought this I had called the local Car Quest Auto Parts store a got a price from them and they never mentioned a choice of belts.Does anyone know what this is about? Also there is a warning about this new idler not being flanged.What's that about? Help!!I have an appointment for next week to have this installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 hmmm, isn't that interesting. maybe they just mean the EJ22 and EJ25 or DOCH verses SOHC? either way yours will be the more popular and common SOHC so it should be right. to actually check it, stop at an autoparts store and comparing it to one they have in stock. not sure about the flanged thing but more than likely it should be interchangeable - attach old flange to new pulley. and if it's not the old pulley might be fine, the mechanic will be able to check. being young you have a good chance of this car not *needing* all new pulleys....keeping in mind the new one may fit anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000outback Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 grossgary said: hmmm, isn't that interesting. maybe they just mean the EJ22 and EJ25 or DOCH verses SOHC? either way yours will be the more popular and common SOHC so it should be right. to actually check it, stop at an autoparts store and comparing it to one they have in stock. not sure about the flanged thing but more than likely it should be interchangeable - attach old flange to new pulley. and if it's not the old pulley might be fine, the mechanic will be able to check. being young you have a good chance of this car not *needing* all new pulleys....keeping in mind the new one may fit anyway. What it actually says is "the right side idler bearing may be manufactured with an inner flange(guide).This inner flange is redundant and is not needed where there is already an inner and outer flange efecting the application."The new one is a "NON-FLANGED BEARING" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hohieu Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 The lower right idler used be a single-row flanged bearing. According to Subaru, it has been superseded by a double-row non-flanged bearing that is identical to the upper right idler. In any case, this is a low load idler pulley so either should work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000outback Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 So nobody has heard of a different timing belt for this application? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 2000outback said: So nobody has heard of a different timing belt for this application?no, because there isn't one. there definitely is not "more than one application" of a 2000 EJ25 SOHC. with the exception of CA spec's but we'll just ignore those hosers. one possibility is that "california spec"....CA is always screwing things up with cars, but that shouldn't matter for you. you can call subaru and ask if they have cal spec timing belts or not during that year just for giggles. my guess is that comment is directed at DOHC/SOHC or EJ22/EJ25. in 1999 some subaru's had the DOHC EJ25 and some had SOHC EJ25. december of 1999 is really close to January of 2000 so i'm guessing that's just a blanket statement that probably doesn't apply to you. the easy way to check is to make sure yours is SOHC, stop in at an auto parts store and compare the one you just got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aircraft engineer Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Don't worry about the lack of flanges - the cam pulley (both of them) has the flanges and that's all that's needed. A timing belt is a timing belt - no matter what anybody thinks - they are identical - CA and "other" - IDENTICAL for the 2000 (based on engine type, of course). I keep saying that CA mandated a 100k mile life so Sub just said OK - it's 100k (the belt didn't PHYSICALLY change, just the "factor of safety" - with the engine being "interference" a belt breaking is sort of "disastrous" on the engine - valves if nothing else. Actual run life will depend on a lot of other factors - like abrasive or oil contamination - that merely running around a track won't pick up. Analyze the data and predict the 99.9% success rate about +2 standard deviations - and set it as "expected life - MTBF". IF a trend starts showing "in service", fix it - or suffer the warranty consequences) There is MAYBE a difference between belt manufacturers - I wouldn't put much "faith" in some of the "generic" belt manufacturers, but using a name brand (non-Sub) belt and a rigorous change at say, 75k is enough of a "warm fuzzy". Sorry, I don't buy into "the OEM is the only way to go" club - but I do all of my own work, too. "Bad" parts have a way of making their presence know throughout the community (and is why a local parts store stopped carrying PCI parts - PCI won't accept a "bad manufacture" claim. According to them there is no such thing as a manufacturing defect - ROFLMAO!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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