screwbaru2 Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 The front U joint in my 97 OB 5 spd MT is shot. I have a driveshaft from a 97 Lego AT can I use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellow65 Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 nope not going to work. the manual drive lines are longer then the autos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 The front U joint in my 97 OB 5 spd MT is shot. I have a driveshaft from a 97 Lego AT can I use it? 97 outback auto...........27031AC060 97 outback 5spd...........27031AC070 97 legacy auto...........27031AC130 97 legacy 5spd...........27031AC140 i can't believe legacy and outback are different, but apparently they are. i'm also surprised that manual and auto are different, but that at least makes sense, the trans are different. there have been no reports of drive shaft problems when swapping a outback trans into a legacy, or vice versa. so maybe the difference is in weight or the thickness of the steel. and some have changed auto trans for manual. maybe one ofthem will chime in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 the difference wold be in the font half of the driveshaft, the one thet contains the carrier bearing. as far as i would assume, the rear halfs should be the same on legacys. at least this is true for older model subarus(ea82), the rear half is interchangeable regardless of model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwbaru2 Posted September 20, 2008 Author Share Posted September 20, 2008 Wel no good news there. I need the front of course. Thanks all. It's off to see what the fix for this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edrach Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 The front U joint in my 97 OB 5 spd MT is shot. I have a driveshaft from a 97 Lego AT can I use it?Automatic and MT driveshafts are different lengths. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edrach Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 However the good news is, if you install the STi 6 speed MT, your automatic drive shaft is the correct length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwbaru2 Posted September 21, 2008 Author Share Posted September 21, 2008 So how much do you want for your STi 6spd MT? I should have parted this car out!:mad:Almost 2 grand and 6 weeks into this and I still don't have a F%^%&ing car:banghead: Now another $700 for a driveshaft!!! I'm the one whos getting the shaft!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 (edited) Now another $700 for a driveshaft!!! I'm the one whos getting the shaft!! slow down, there are lots and lots of used drive shafts around and you may only need the front section with the carrier bearing. ask here : http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=37 and look here: www.car-part.com also a good drive shaft shop can replace your universals for much less than a new shaft. good luck. Edited September 21, 2008 by johnceggleston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwbaru2 Posted September 21, 2008 Author Share Posted September 21, 2008 Thanks, I've searched the for sale page and have an ad on the parts wanted page. I also sent an email to MWE asking what they can do. Also a couple of emails to people on the sale page that had items for sale that led me to think they may have what I need. I'm so angry I could chew nails! This car isn't worth this much trouble. But now that it's almost done and with all the time and money invested I've got to go all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edrach Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Thanks, I've searched the for sale page and have an ad on the parts wanted page. I also sent an email to MWE asking what they can do. Also a couple of emails to people on the sale page that had items for sale that led me to think they may have what I need. I'm so angry I could chew nails! This car isn't worth this much trouble. But now that it's almost done and with all the time and money invested I've got to go all the way.John has the correct idea. I don't know where Hope Valley is, but the local junkyard is your friend. The local (to me) Pull a Part yard charges under $30 for a complete driveshaft when they have the right car in the yard. Any MT Impreza wagon should have the correct driveshaft for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edrach Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 So how much do you want for your STi 6spd MT? I should have parted this car out!:mad:Almost 2 grand and 6 weeks into this and I still don't have a F%^%&ing car:banghead: Now another $700 for a driveshaft!!! I'm the one whos getting the shaft!!I'm sorry for my "tongue in cheek" comment about the STi 6MT. But please don't even think about $700 for a new driveshaft. Check around at the junkyards in your area for a used one or have a local drive shop replace the u-joint on your current one. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellow65 Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 yeah there are much cheaper options then a $700 drive shaft. if it's just your u joint replace it, i don't think subaru will tell you you can but i have heard of people having drive line shops doing it. and then also what ed said about finding a junk yard, i got a whole drive line for $40 it looked brand new. do more checking before slapping down $700 for a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwbaru2 Posted September 21, 2008 Author Share Posted September 21, 2008 (edited) Thanks everyone, I know the STi MT was a joke although the OB could actually use a 6th speed. Don't worry I'm not spending $700 on a driveshaft. I looked @ subarupartsforyou.com to find out what they get for a new one, that's way over budget. I have been considering grinding the stakes down with a dremel tool and replacing the ujoint. I haven't quite figured how to restake the replacment. Also I'll be hearing from MWE this week, I just bought 2 front axles from them. What beauties! I almost hung em on the wall instead of installing them. The boneyards around here usually get half what the part costs new, I don't think I'll be paying $350 either. Actually it was the Haynes manual that stated the U joints can't be replaced. Thanks again. Hope Valley is in Rhode Island which is a small state between Mass. and Conn. Edited September 21, 2008 by screwbaru2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edrach Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Actually it was the Haynes manual that stated the U joints can't be replaced. Thanks again. Hope Valley is in Rhode Island which is a small state between Mass. and Conn.The Haynes manual is partially correct in that they aren't replaceable by the average home mechanic, but I know it can be done. Thanks for the clarification on Hope Valley. I know where Rhode Island is since I great up in NJ and my wife has relatives in RI. It's just that Hope Valley sounded like it might have been in California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdrsubaru Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 anybody knows what is the difference between a auto legacy driveshaft and and a auto drivershaft for an outback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwbaru2 Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 anybody knows what is the difference between a auto legacy driveshaft and and a auto drivershaft for an outback? The outbacks are longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwbaru2 Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 So, I took the propellershaft out of my OBW. Now the car doesn't move at all. Is that normal for a MT or have I had rear wheel drive all this time and didn't know it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdrsubaru Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 The outbacks are longer. how is it longer if they are essentially the same cars? i believe i am running a outback driveshaft on my 95 legacy and the only difference i've noticed is that the carrier bearing bracket on the outback is placed lower than the stock legacy.... now the length is the same or i wouldn't be able to bolt them up .... i was just wondering if there was any other differences... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwbaru2 Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 I've got a AT lego wagon shaft and a OBW MT shaft the OB is longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdrsubaru Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 oh yes def MT to AT is different, i was talking about AT to AT Lego AT to OUtback AT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 anybody knows what is the difference between a auto legacy driveshaft and and a auto drivershaft for an outback? The outbacks are longer. this does not make sense. it may be correct, but it does not make sense. the only difference in the outback auto and the legacy L auto is the ring gear on the front diff, the housings are the same. the obw is not significantly longer than the leg L, just slightly different bumper size. and poeple have swapped 4.44 (outback) trans with rear diff into legacy L (4.11) cars and vice versa. the 4.11 rear diff in the leg L auto goes in the outback manual, so the rear diffs are the same length. so where's the difference??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwbaru2 Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 oh yes def MT to AT is different, i was talking about AT to AT Lego AT to OUtback AT oh never mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdrsubaru Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 this does not make sense. it may be correct, but it does not make sense. the only difference in the outback auto and the legacy L auto is the ring gear on the front diff, the housings are the same. the obw is not significantly longer than the leg L, just slightly different bumper size. and poeple have swapped 4.44 (outback) trans with rear diff into legacy L (4.11) cars and vice versa. the 4.11 rear diff in the leg L auto goes in the outback manual, so the rear diffs are the same length. so where's the difference??? i agree that the length is the same from auto to auto, however the carrier bearing support that bolts into the vehicle is slightly different by the outback having more space (down) between the carrier and the floor board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 the only difference i've noticed is that the carrier bearing bracket on the outback is placed lower than the stock legacy... by lower do you mean that the drive hangs down below the car more or what.?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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