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I had a silver 83 GL turbo wagon that had a three speed automatic/push button 4wd that came from Montana It leaked an obscene amount of oil, rust galore and the transmission quit working in the higher gears and reverse.

 

Just email the sell and ask what transmission it has/condition of the body/etc :P

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Its a 4 spd. I've yet to see the hype with a 5 spd. I have a 4 and a 5 and the final ratio is the same. I was thinking the 5 was an OD. So, the gears are a little bit wider, thats ok, I drove a Mack forever. ;)

 

The final ratio is the same yes, but the low range is lower on the 5 speed. It's 1.45:1 on the 4 speed, and 1.59:1 on the 5 speed.

 

Additionally the 5 speed is stronger and the syncro's last longer. They don't suffer from the 2nd and 3rd gear syncro problems and the entire shift linkage doesn't suck a$$ like the 4's.

 

It's also easier to cruise at 25 MPH in 3rd. The 4's are either lugging in 3 or revving out in 2.

 

They are also lighter and shorter. :)

 

Then there's the stronger clutch options.....

 

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The final ratio is the same yes, but the low range is lower on the 5 speed. It's 1.45:1 on the 4 speed, and 1.59:1 on the 5 speed.

 

Additionally the 5 speed is stronger and the syncro's last longer. They don't suffer from the 2nd and 3rd gear syncro problems and the entire shift linkage doesn't suck a$$ like the 4's.

 

It's also easier to cruise at 25 MPH in 3rd. The 4's are either lugging in 3 or revving out in 2.

 

They are also lighter and shorter. :)

 

Then there's the stronger clutch options.....

 

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Yeah, yeah, lugging or winding out. I can never figure what gear I am happiest in go through town. Notice the Mack note above? Syncro's are optional for me. ;)

 

Good info to know.

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Yeah, yeah, lugging or winding out. I can never figure what gear I am happiest in go through town. Notice the Mack note above? Syncro's are optional for me. ;)

 

Good info to know.

 

Syncro's may be optional, but the design of the 4 speed causes them to fall out of gear when you let off the gas. They don't just wear and grind - they wear out and then are so sloppy they won't stay in gear without holding them there with your hand. It's usually 3rd. I've also seen them so bad the shift dog's wouldn't grab unless you held them in gear quite forcefully while releasing the clutch.

 

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I had a .....ummmm.....'52 GMC pickup that had that same issue. What are they like to rebuild?

 

UGLY. Remember these are transmissions, differentials, and transfer cases all in one unit. Many parts, lots of precision shimming and adjusting. The 5 speed's are actually simpler in design than the 4's.

 

It's far cheaper and less time consuming to just find another one. All the parts needed to rebuild one correctly would cost more than a good used tranny. And 5 speed's are a dime a dozen.

 

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