etc Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Have a 98 Legacy L wagon, that throws a code. Got a OBD-II scanner but cannot find the place under the steering wheel where to plug it in. Where is it located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgambino Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Note where the hood release lever is. A few inches above that ther should be a small little plastic door that flips open...this is it. Plug in the tester and turn on the key--no need to start car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etc Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 (edited) Thank you... That was easier than I thought. I pulled the codes and got P0301 and P0302: Cylinder 1 and 2 misfire detected http://www.obd-codes.com/p0301 That would explain the miss between 2nd and 3rd gear. (But no miss at idle or throttle) I am replacing the spark plugs and plug wires. Are there any other things I should look at? I am hoping that plugs and wires will fix it. The spark plugs didn't look too bad upon examination, so it's probably the wires. Edited December 12, 2008 by etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86subaru Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 here is one thing i did is clear all the codes and rechecked it , after a week of driving , the reason was i had so many codes , but the car ran good, i call them ghost codes, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etc Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 I will clear the codes after plug and wires are installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellow65 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 it been covered a billion time here but it's always worth saying once more. subarus are picky about there wires. don't get your local parts store cheapo brands, get dealer or find someone selling NGK, plugs and wires. you will thank your self later when your not trying to figure out a hesitation problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etc Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 Thanks, I got both NGK plugs and wires. $50/set of wires at rockauto.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etc Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 (edited) Question on plug wires. I got NGK 9126, which is for 2.2L engine. However, taking the wires out of the box, it doesn't look like they are the right ones. The spark plug ends fits but they certainly don't fit on the coil end, here is the difference. These don't fit onto the coil at all. The orig is on the left, new ones are on the right. Are these for 2.5L engine maybe? Edited December 13, 2008 by etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I have several EJ22's a couple EJ22T's and an EJ25 (all 97 and earlier) I have never seen a coil pack like yours The NGK ends are what all mine have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etc Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 Let me get this straight -- the new NGK plug wires look right but the ones that came with the car (pictured on the left) are the wrong ones? And the coil that's installed on the car is wrong also? Please explain this mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebugs Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 You're probably fine. I've seen coil packs like that - and I think they may be original. Sometimes replacement wires are all straight not 2 with the 90 degree connector. Just saying what I've run across. Not necessarily what is factory. As others have stated here 2.2's don't seem to be nearly as sensitive to non OEM plug wires as 2.5's for some reason. When I do need wires typically I get OEM anyways. Never used NGK's but I'd think they were pretty good. Infact I may try them on a VW next week. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etc Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 Take a look at my coil and the ends of these spark plugs - they don't fit at all. Question, are these the right wires for 2.2L? Or is my coil the wrong one (But how is that possible if the car ran with the old configuration?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebugs Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 (edited) To confirm - you have an 'L' so were' talking 2.2 as mentioned already in the thread? I've seem male and female coil packs on 2.5's (some 99's come to mind). A lot of parts are interchangeable but not plug wires. Plugs are close but slightly different heat range. If they are the wrong sex you should be able to return them and get the correct sex. I believe that I have swapped matching coil pack/wires from one intake to another as a matching set on a 99 DOHC. Where one was originally a female coilpack and I swapped it to a male coil pack/wires. So another aproach may be to get a coil pack that matches the wires. Frankly if you're confused just take the vin to the dealer, pay the big bucks, get the correct parts(hopefully) and be done with it for another 100k. I have a 99 2.2 here now I can look at tomorrow but it really won't prove anything. BTW clean up the pics of the plug wires and simply state that the new ones are Blue (I'm guessing). Dave Edited December 13, 2008 by davebugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etc Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 It's not a question of male/female. You should see what's wrong in this pic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebugs Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 That helps. I'd take/send them back. For confirmation go to the local auto parts (or dealer), ask to see some plug wires for your application, I'm betting they don't look like that. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etc Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 To complicate the matter, we also have a 99 OBW with 2.5L, if these will work on 2.5L, I will keep them. (I don't have the car with me to compare it to) My best guess is, they confused 2.2L and 2.5L engines. Possible? For an example of what works, see the same pic, the plug wire right next to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebugs Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Entirely possible that they got confused. I see a lot more 98 2.5's than 2.2's. But then again I usually buy broken cars and the 2.5's aren't as reliable so that's what I see the most of. A lot of folks here recomment OEM only on the 2.5's which is what I get when I need them. But I do a lot of cars with non OEM plug wires on them that seem to run fine - 2.2's and 2.5's. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountaingoatgruff Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 (edited) the pic in post 15 shows a coilpack with male terminals, the old wires are proper female cable ends and the new wire is a male cable end (disregard the rubber boot, the terminal is supposed to clip inside the coil terminal). entirely a question of male/female. exchange your new cables. my 93 imp 1.8 and 95 leg 2.2 are female coil/male cables while my 97 2.2 is the opposite - male coil/female cables. the 93 1.8 runs fine with generics for now, the 95 2.2 is in non-running project status and the 97 2.2 ran like crap with new bosch's but ran great after switching to magnecor 8.5mm cables (its also in non-running project status for now). also, since you've got a male coil, you want the 90deg boots for cylinders 2 & 4 like your original wires otherwise they ride against the throttle & cc cables. Edited December 13, 2008 by mountaingoatgruff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etc Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 Just pure incompetence on their part, obvious the wrong part. I found the right part for the NGK plug wires for '98 2.2L: any idea who has it in stock with fast shipping on the East coast. The local dealership has only 2 wires in stock, with each wire costing $20.... SOA430Q118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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