Greenley Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 (edited) 84 GL Wagon 4WD I just got finished swapping an intake manifold and a weber carb tonight, wrapped up the loose ends, etc. thinking everything looked tidy and fit. I was stoked:) Upon turning the ignition over, a sharp "ping", is all that is heard, no turning over at all. The starter engages, the accessories work, all seems grand until i try and start it. All the swappage looks to be ok, where should i look? What would cause something like that? ************ that sounded awful:-\ Edited December 13, 2008 by Greenley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast I Drive Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Maybe you dropped something into the heads when you had the manifold off that or the starter could be toast, had it happen to me once, but I had the e brake on and forgot it was in gear, so I didnt push in the clutch... did it sound like it came from in the motor or the starter itself? Does it repeat every time you attempt to start it, or was it just the once? -Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenley Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 That would suck, unlikely but It sounds like the motor, and yes it was all three times i tried it. That was plenty to make me feel queasy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast I Drive Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 It sounds like something in the motor locked up, better inventory all your tools and all the parts you swapped out, if something is missing...:-\ Then you might want to invest in one of those pen microscope dealios, easier to look through the spark plug hole to check rather than tearin the heads off. -Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky92 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 You mentioned the car didnt turn over at all?? Maybe you hydrolocked it by accident from the intake manifold? I hydrolocked my XT6 and it was the most aweful noise. Just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenley Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 I was just searching for that, what happened when you hydrolocked your XT6? You mentioned the car didnt turn over at all?? Maybe you hydrolocked it by accident from the intake manifold? I hydrolocked my XT6 and it was the most aweful noise. Just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky92 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Mine hydrolocker from a leaky intake manifold gasket..just pulled the plugs and cranked it then...shot coolant 20-30 feet across the road It was actually quite amusing You can remove the plugs and see the water in there.. that way you know what side it came from. fixed the gasket..added coolant and new plugs ..and fired up and ran fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenley Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 So would coolant entering into the head equate to it being hydrolocked? I'll pull the plugs tomorrow and crank it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky92 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 the coolant gets trapped on top of the piston..and when you try and crank ..the water cant compress and it locks the motor..thus making the horrible sound. I have heard one or two others doing the same after a weber swap. Cant remember who though...but it doesnt do any damage..and I only changed the plugs cause they were old anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quidam Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 " where should i look? " The place you were wrenching on. I think Bucky92 prolly hit the nail on the head:). hope that's all it is. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenley Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 Whew, pulled the plugs and cranked her over (very nervously) Just as Bucky92 said, coolant spewed out of the #1 and #3 cylinders. No bad noise, all seems ok. Off to get the plugs back in and try this weber out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 that is awesome......you had me worried there for a second......good luck.cheers, brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky92 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Yay!!!:banana: Glad thats all it was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Great! ... I will Like to See Pictures of your Weber Setup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenley Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 Here it is, with a camera phone: Here's my solution to the ASV: Still trying to figure out what to do with these : Vaccum Switch I & II Also have to connect the choke wire, return spring, and route the crankcase breather hoses a little better. I'd be a lot happier if she'd fire up, but at least it's turing over. It's only me and my boy right now, so not much time to tinker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast I Drive Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Glad it was coolant in the bores, couldve been a mess if it were something else in there -Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Nice Job! ... Well Done! ...Still trying to figure out what to do with these : Vaccum Switch I & II ... Well, I Suggest you to Cap each Vacuum that will be no longer Needed, and Disconnect the Wires from those Switch... All those are Emmisions things... I Removed everything in my Weberized Wagon, it also makes it Look Cleaner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenley Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 I Suggest you to Cap each Vacuum that will be no longer Needed... I Removed everything in my Weberized Wagon, it also makes it Look Cleaner! Thanks I'm finding it hard to determine what needs to be capped off, if those are both emissions related, then out they go. There is TOO much information on the weber swap, and the how to links are dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Not all Links, see my "Public Profile" Page here, Click on my Avatar; I`ve posted there a List of Some of my Writeups, those are Plenty of Pics and Ideas; I Hope my Writeup about my Weber Swap can Help you. Best Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenley Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 You are correct, i did read through yours at least 3 times. It was very helpful in deciding how to route the breathers and PCV hose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Thank You! You can Try a "Oil Catch Can" if you want to Route the Heads` 5/8" Hoses along to the PCV, to avoid Blown oil from being Sucked by the intake or Carb. My Weberized Wagon have the PCV Appart with its own 5/8" Filter, and Both Heads` Hoses are Routed to a "T", its open end goes to the Carb, Doing that, Blown oil Goes from one Head to the Other one, letting just the Fumes going to the Carb... But I am Considering to use a Catch Can in the Future. See: http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=92384 Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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