Txakura Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Under the bumper I think then I found that strip. Can I get away with mounting some 6" rounds on that without worrying about road crap hitting it? It doesnt snow here ever lol. some kind of stone guard is nice to have, if it's the strip I'm thinking of, I'd think you could use one of the strip screws to hold it and drill a fresh hole for the other light bracket hole - leave your options open, I had to play with my lights a few times to decide where I wanted them aimed I really like Skip's revised turn signals and lights mounted in the bumper, that recessed turn signal wasn't visible from the side at all - I totally agree with the idea of putting the turn signals on the corners where they should have been to begin with, and the aux lights in the bumper look very clean tucked in like that (-sigh- like I needed more projects) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Txakura Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Actually Mr. Bhien makes it more difficult than it really is. Follow the wiring from the turn signal and you will find it up by the parking light that I converted to a turn signal. It was a simple splice at that point, no "3 foot of wire" needed. I also changed the lamp to an amber colored one, and left the small corner marker as the "parking light" that bulb you changed to amber, I just replaced mine and can't remember if it was a dual or single filament, can it be a marker and signal? 3 lead pig tail? when you say 'simple splice', did you splice the original turn signal wires to the corner light pig tail leads - therby having the original turn sockets left over? this is a good mod, my under bumper lights are rectangular and not as large as the ones in your pic, they would really really work well in the recessed oem turn location Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oskar_subaru Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 That is the ultimate stone guard!!!! iceland Dealer special.. made here and offered as a extra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caramanos2000 Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 Ok guys took my bumper off and bought me some lights. I wana mount them in front of the grille on the top of the bumper. My dilemma is how do I hold the nut on the inside of the bumper? Seems the spor on the back of it were I can stick my hand through only reaches to a certain point and that point seems to end up slightly behind the grille. Can someone explain exactly how to do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I drilled and tapped the bumper beam, no nut needed. I'm sure you've seen this before but here it is again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caramanos2000 Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 Ohhhh ok but what if I dont have a tap? Sheet metal screws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I doubt sheet metal screws would hold. You can make a tap if you have a bolt and a file or grinder. File a small slot perpendicular to the theards This will be for chips. Taper the end of the threads slightly. Drill the correct size hole for tapping the size bolt you have and use some lube for cutting fluid. Push on the bolt to get it started, bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caramanos2000 Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 Ok got them mounted to the bottom of the bumper. Can the ground be place on the bumper frame or must it be somewhere in the car structure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 it is best to ground the lights on the neg. terminal of the battery Remember all the juice going to the lights has to return to the battery. If the bumper is rusty or gets rusty where it mounts to the frame it could cause the lights to dim. I hope you are planning on using a relay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caramanos2000 Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 Grounded them to the subframe with some large gauge wire. I used a standard relay and used power from the high beams to the relay. However if the car is on so are the lights I put on, I dont get it... I wanted them to only come one when the high beams were on not anytime the car is running. Any ideas were I messed up, should I just add a switch into the drivers compartment. If so can this switch only interrupt the flow of electricity from the headlight power im using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subynut Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 The subaru headlight system uses a common hot system: they ground the filament side of the bulb. Basically, what I had to do was run a always hot line to one side of the relay then the other side to the hi-beam circuit. That make sense? It's backwards to most other cars. Lets' see if I can make a sudo diagram.... Lo-beam----------------------| Common (+)-----------------| Hi beam----------------------| When the lights are off, there is + on all three points. When you turn on the headlights, the low beam switch goes to ground, completing the circuit. When the hi beams are on, the low beam goes to + again, and the hi beam side goes to ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 This thread is getting high jacked to high heaven Start a new post please. Subynut is right on. Since we have never been told what car this is I'll guess an EA82 series For the driver's side head light the wires/colors are as follows; Red/blue ---- hot (+12v) from the left side headlight fuse --------------This will show +12v anytime the ig switch is on --------------and the headlights are on (high or low beam) Red/white ---- high beam (shows a ground via the hi/low switch when --------------- in the "high" beam position) Red/black ---- (shows a ground via the hi/low switch when --------------- in the "low" beam position) Wire your relay coil across the Red/blue and red/white wires It will then work as you wish. (ON with the high beams only) Here is a post if you want to take the time to learn about it... complete with a headlight wiring diagram. That gentleman wanted his on with the low beams. Hope this helps. http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=93347&highlight=filament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caramanos2000 Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) Actually my first post says what car it is. Anyways Can you tell me what goes to which number on the relay. Currently have: 1. 30 power in from battery with fuse 2. 85 ground 3. 86 to single wire from headlight 4. 87 to driving lights I dont understand from whot you guys said if I take 2 wires from the headlights to the same connector on the relay or 2 separate wires to 2 separate connectors? From what I read in Skips directions, I must remove my current ground wire and replace it with the ground from the headlights. And in my case use red and white to supply power to switch the relay on correct? So at terminal # 85 go to the Red/blue wire and on terminal # 86 to the Red/White correct? BTW Skip thanks for being the most patient person I have ever seen in a forum Edited January 10, 2009 by Caramanos2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I Have a Writeup about Relays, Plenty of Pics; you can see a List of Some of my Writeups at my "Public Profile" Page here. Also: Why Don`t you use independent Wires for the Fog Lights, and just use the Headlights` High Beam Wire as a "Signal" Wire to turn ON your Fog Lights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caramanos2000 Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 Thats what I wana do hence why Im using the 2 headlight leads to power the relay and a desperate lead to my battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subynut Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 From what I read in Skips directions, I must remove my current ground wire and replace it with the ground from the headlights. And in my case use red and white to supply power to switch the relay on correct? So at terminal # 85 go to the Red/blue wire and on terminal # 86 to the Red/White correct? Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caramanos2000 Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 Finished install thanks to skip and all the help: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subynut Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Looks good. I don't know why, but, wagons look really good with aux lights on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scooby Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 nice lookin wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Txakura Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) there you go, looks good oh yeah, watch for snow drifts (just kidding) Edited February 1, 2009 by Txakura added small joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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