SubaruWagon87 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I acquired my girlfriend's 87 gl wagon (carbed ea82, 3at 4wd) after she got her nissan pickup. We've been sharing the pickup since we can't afford to insure 2 vehicles. I've had to store the wagon up at my moms, and as a result of sitting up there all winter, some mice decided to move in. A guy here in town died not too long ago from the haunta (sp?) virus, so it makes me a bit paranoid thinking about driving it again. I know I could clean it out and whatnot, but I could never shake that paranoid feeling. I found a turbo gl wagon (5sp, p/b 4wd) here in town for $100, and got to thinking, I could either buy the turbo car and drive it like it is (it was a smokers car, but I'd rather clean out cigarettes than mouse poop) or buy it and swap in the carbed motor from the 87. What do you guys think? Btw, its got these wheels: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomRhere Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I understand your feelings about the mice and what they left behind. But all of that can be cleaned up. However, getting a decent car for $100 is a good deal, even if you have to swap motors. As for the smoker smell part of it, use Murphy's Oil Soap to clean the interior. Works great.... I bought a Dodge fullsize truck, the PO's were chain smokers, I smoke myself, but still... The cab of the truck was nasty with residue. Had to change the bucket of water/MOS a few times but it cleaned all the residue nicely. Can do cloth with it too, but use a damp rag. Don't want to soak the cloth, just clean it. May have to do a cleaning, let it dry, then repeat to get it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinthe202 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 If you've got the hundred bucks, my vote is for the turbo wagon. You could swap the necessaries out of the '87 and have a fuel injected ride with sweet wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast I Drive Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 If you decide to sell your GF's car, let me know, I need another EA82 car... -Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in Bellingham Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 If you decide to sell your GF's car, let me know, I need another EA82 car...-Bill Bill you need complete car or parts? SJR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast I Drive Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Right now I need a parts car, with manual windows. I also need a DL or Loyal rear hatch, the one with the rubber window gasket not the glue-in kind. Whatcha got? -Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubaruWagon87 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Well my gf's car wouldnt work for ya since its got electric windows, as for the back window, I'll let you know later this week if ya want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in Bellingham Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Right now I need a parts car, with manual windows. I also need a DL or Loyal rear hatch, the one with the rubber window gasket not the glue-in kind. Whatcha got?-Bill I have to many cars, the one I wanted gone is a EA82 wagon ,automatic with no engine, loyale with electric windows, good rear hatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Abides Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Right now I need a parts car, with manual windows. I also need a DL or Loyal rear hatch, the one with the rubber window gasket not the glue-in kind. Whatcha got?-Bill amazing you need yet another subaru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast I Drive Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Damn, why does everyone have electric windows I need the parts for the rig Im building, it started out as 3AT 4wd car with power windows (imagine that ) and Ive converted it to D/R and want manual windows, the power ones are too slow. And I want a Loyal hatch cuz I want to replace the rear window with Plexiglass but I dont want all the holes from the old trim. I just got an 87 wagon, but the interior is too nice to take the doors off it, although I did need to steal the guage cluster for my project, Im hoping to get that replaced eventually, maybe make a decent EJ22 swapped rig out of it. On another note, what all is wrong with your GF's car? Is it in decent shape? Tranny still good? -Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subiemech85 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 buy and drive the $100 special! after the turbo engine gives up, swap in the carb engine and fuel pump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubaruWagon87 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 On another note, what all is wrong with your GF's car? Is it in decent shape? Tranny still good? -Bill The motor leaks oil pretty badly (but then again, its supposed to ), it runs like crap (my guess is a combination of old fuel filter/crap in the carb), it needs a front axle, new wiper arm, brakes, radiator, and some mice moved in for the winter. Other than that, its a pretty decentish car. For having almost 250,000 its got virtually no rust. I'm just paranoid about the fact that mice pooped in it. The tranny is still good, even tho its a 3at buy and drive the $100 special! after the turbo engine gives up, swap in the carb engine and fuel pump! I'm really thinking I'm going to, but if I buy the turbo car I'd like to swap the carbed motor in before the turbo motor craps out. I'm not even sure if it runs good. The guy said it ran great when he drove it, but its been sitting for awhile, so who knows. On a side note, how hard is it to swap a carbed engine into a turbo car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast I Drive Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 you'd have to swap in the carbed fuel pump, and rig up some wiring for the choke, but that wouldnt be too hard. Then put a standard N/A exhaust on it. Then just unplug the ECU I think... It might be more involved than that, never tried it... -Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88RxTuner Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Dont even necessarily have to swap fuel pumps... presumably you could use a regulator to get it down to 3-4psi or wherever you'd like to run, and use the FI pump.. I dont know how hard this would be on the pump, but if it crapped out, THEN you could swap to the low pressure pump... I dont know which is cheaper. I'm not sure, but I think the ECU controls some functions of the car such as ignition timing and perhaps some dashboard functions?? as well as the engine (Corrections??) If not, it should be pretty much that easy, swap the engines and exhaust, install hot wire to choke assy, address fuel pressure and go with it..? Do the carbed engines use electronic ignition timing? 88RxTuner EDIT: +1 on getting a 100$ turbo car!! Pick it up!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast I Drive Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Yeah, forgot about the timing... You'd have to swap in the engine control modula from the carbed car too, that might get a little hairy, the 5 wires that go into it go all over the harness, but if you have diagrams you can figure it out. If the Turbo has digidash, then you just opened a whole 'nuther can of worms BTW, I have both those digi dashes pulled from those wagons, if you are interested let me know, ones green and ones orange and they both work :banana: -Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubaruWagon87 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 I might go through with doing an engine swap, or I might leave the turbo engine alone if it runs good. Kindof a dumb question, but couldn't I get a carbed ea82 to run with just a few wires and a couple vacuum lines? Or is that just asking for trouble? Bill, the turbo wagon has analog gauges, which is fine for now. And hopefully I'll be able to make it down there to pick up those clusters sometime soon , things are a little bit on edge since I'm going to be moving soon, but we'll see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88RxTuner Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Technically, yes... Provided that you : 1: Address your fuel pressure. Carbs dont like 50+ psi, they tend to flood... all over the engine compartment! 2: Have or install a mechanical (read: Points) distributor, with associated Non-Electronic ignition system. 3: Ensure that the ECM does not control any dash functions, gauges, lamps, etc. (unless these are of no concern.) Personally, I'd drive the turbo engine till it dies, then fix it and drive it some more... but I dont have a spare N/A engine laying around. 88RxTuner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank B Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 It would be best to remove the interior to clean it. If done that with two subes and it isn't that bad. The carpet, seats and trunk carpet, can be hosed down and dry quickly in the sun. The door panels would need to be wiped by hand. If the carpet padding comes up easy, you can wipe the bare floor down. I used Simple Green the first time, but this last time I used Spray Nine, and that stuff will kill ANYTHING! Just lay out the carpet and set up the seats, spray with the Spray Nine to saturate it. Let sit about ten minutes, then turn the hose on it untill it rinses clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubaruWagon87 Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 Well, I took a look at the turbo car today, it was worse than I remember. Theres garbage all over the back, dust and cigarette ash everywhere, and some sort of weird film covering the dash. I popped the hood to check the water and oil, and there was barely any oil on the stick, and no water that I could see in the radiator. I might pass on it because theres an early 90s legacy half an hour away from me for $250 that I'm going to look at on monday. From what I've heard, the only thing wrong with it is that it needs a $30 part that the only way to get to it is to pull the motor (is there such a part?) Bill: would sunday be ok to come down and get those gauge clusters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast I Drive Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Sure, works for me -Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubaruWagon87 Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 K, what time would be best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WagonMan76 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Nothing is a sweet a the factory job. I'm sure you or your buddy would do an OK job on a swap but not like the factory. Most Virus' can't live that long exposed. Kick the mice out wait a week, get yourself a dust mask and go to the car wash, then buy the 100$ turbo because its a good deal. Then clean those rims up and sell them on ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Txakura Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 from the CDC website; "Hantaviruses have been shown to be viable in the environment for 2 to 3 days at normal room temperature. The ultraviolet rays in sunlight kill hantaviruses. " and "Use a bleach solution or household disinfectant to effectively deactivate hantaviruses when cleaning rodent infestations. " there are also hospital grade spray cleaners that will kill all the way to hep c and hiv, I used to use them at work for bio hazards - but don't remember the brand names nitrile gloves are tight enough to keep many virus from passing through the pores of the material but really, the odds are pretty low to begin with, it's extremely rare up here in the northern latitudes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast I Drive Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Best time for me would be before 12 or around 7 or 8 in the evening, I dont know yet what Ill be doing in the day, but Ill prolly be around -Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubaruWagon87 Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 Before 12 might work, I have to work till 11 the previous night, so I'm not sure if I'll be up in time. I'll send you a message on friday or saturday letting you know for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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