1997reduxe Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Hey all. I've found a 96 Legacy Outback AWD 5 speed that was supposedly towed in reverse on two wheels while in first gear? (Could anyone really be that stupid?) Anyways, the owner says it has just damaged the 5 speed manual trans, though from what I understand it most likely also fried parts of the AWD, no? I was just wondering what other damage this probably caused. Thanks in advance, '97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 (edited) if i understand you right, either the clutch slipped for the entire tow or the engine turned over backwards. that's if the front wheels were down and it was pulled backwards. also front wheels turning and back wheels not would screw up the viscous coupling, awd unit. if it was pointing frontwards, it still screwed up the VC, but the engine probably didn't turn over. so the list of possibly damaged stuff: VC clutch engine bearings? engine rings? who on earth would tow a car in gear.? how far was it towed? Edited March 21, 2009 by johnceggleston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1997reduxe Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 Oh, I was wrong, my brother tells me it is an automatic, not a 5 speed. I don't know exactly how far it was towed, but far enough to have the car called a total loss by insurance. the lady's just selling it to get something out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manarius Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Eh, my guess is that transmission just needs replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 trans is toast, any 2.5L trans 96 - 98 will work. how much do they want for the car, how many miles?? is it clean, any rust? pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 if i understand you right, either the clutch slipped for the entire tow or the engine turned over backwards. that's if the front wheels were down and it was pulled backwards. also front wheels turning and back wheels not would screw up the viscous coupling, awd unit. if it was pointing frontwards, it still screwed up the VC, but the engine probably didn't turn over. Either way, the thing that would be damaged is the Viscous center diff. It's not like an automatic where the Front wheels are *locked* in drive and the rear get's variable output. On Manuals the center differential splits power and either front or rear axles can *slip*. The viscous unit is the only thing that prevents it from being just an open diff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1997reduxe Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 So sorry, Im the one looking into this car, my brother was helping me out asking you all about it. Greatly appreciate your help. The first post was correct, it is a manual transmission, and she says it was towed in neutral, forward, with back wheels on ground. So Im assuming, that since it was in neutral, the motor did not turn over so that should be ok, right? The transmission is shot, and Im assuming the vc unit is messed too. can someone explain, if the vc center diff is messed up, can that be fixed, or replaced? THANKS AGAIN, Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbusa Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) My brother was following a flatbed that was towing a subaru awd on the back. The front wheels were on the lift and the back wheels were on the road. It wasn't long before both rear wheels locked up and left 2 long skid marks until the dumba$$ tow truck driver pulled over. He couldn't believe the driver towed it that way! Are you in Maine by any chance?! Maybe this is the same poor suby that he was following? Edited March 24, 2009 by Bigbusa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 The transmission is shot, and Im assuming the vc unit is messed too. can someone explain, if the vc center diff is messed up, can that be fixed, or replaced? THANKS AGAIN, Matt the vc center diff is replaceable, you can probably do it with the trans in the car. but if the trans is also bad just replace the whole thing and you are good to go. the center diff is the rear most part of the trans. but the trans itself may not be bad, i don't know what happens when you tow a 5 spd with 2 wheels down and 2 up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster2 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 What is the asking price for the car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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