bgambino Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I figured I would never buy a sub with the 6 cyl for a few reasons...the 2.5 is powerful enough for me...why deal with less fuel economy...but more importantly...and engine I am not familiar with. But there is a nice one for sale...2001 LLB How much tougher are these to work on? (I've done HG job on my 2.5 96 OB etc)....does the 6 have a timing belt or what...how much more complicated is it (what is the service interval as this has 105k) I assume the compartment is much more cramped??? can you actually RR spark plugs?? it scares me... thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durania Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 The H-6 is going to have a timing chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_Dave Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 The H6 has a timing chain (as said) that should be good for 'the life of the car', the plugs are def. worse to get to (but do not have to be done often) ans things are tighter than on a 4 cylinder, but most of what you have to touch is up on top. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 so far the H6 has a better reputation than the EJ25's. you won't need to do head gaskets, timing belt, tensioner, or pulleys or seals hopefully. you just hope the timing chain tensioner holds well. that's essentially a $600-$1000 job and i haven't heard of anyone doing it themselves yet. i'm sure that will change as time goes on..i think? there's a nice recent thread about some minor issues and how to address them yourself, they're rather simple. check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwbaru2 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I figured I would never buy a sub with the 6 cyl for a few reasons...the 2.5 is powerful enough for me...why deal with less fuel economy...but more importantly...and engine I am not familiar with. But there is a nice one for sale...2001 LLBHow much tougher are these to work on? (I've done HG job on my 2.5 96 OB etc)....does the 6 have a timing belt or what...how much more complicated is it (what is the service interval as this has 105k) I assume the compartment is much more cramped??? can you actually RR spark plugs?? it scares me... thanks Havn't done plugs yet. My wifes H6 gets the same 25MPH as my 2.2 and my old 2.5 got. PCV valve was easy also replaced the TPS which also was a peice of cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgambino Posted April 15, 2009 Author Share Posted April 15, 2009 Anyone else have experience with the 6 cylinder??? Is the timing chain bathed in oil...and it is supposed to last the life of the car??? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_Dave Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Anyone else have experience with the 6 cylinder??? Is the timing chain bathed in oil...and it is supposed to last the life of the car??? thanks Yes, bathed in oil, supposed to last the life of the car. The water pump is driven by the timing chain as well. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster2 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 IMO, if buying new, and comparing Subie 4 vs 6 cylinder motors, I would go with the 4 cylinder. The 4's run well enough with good power. However, if buying used, I would consider the 6 cylinder. It uses more gas driving around town, and spark plugs are nasty to change, yet it is a very nice motor. So, if the price is right, the six cylinder would be a good buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster2 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Yes, bathed in oil, supposed to last the life of the car. The water pump is driven by the timing chain as well. Dave Wow those pixs of the 6 cylinder are really something. If I didn't know better, I wouldn't be surprised if told that the motor came out of a CanAm series racer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P K Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I've only had my 01 H6 LLBean for three months, but I tell you the motor is so smooth you would think it's rotary, and so very quiet. It hauls rump roast when it needs to (or when I feel the need for...), and my combined city and hwy averages 23 mpg, with a couple trips at 25mpg. Timing chain supposedly maintenance free for life of vehicle. The only maintenance done was the external pulleys replaced. Not having to worry about head gaskets or piston slap far outweighs the trouble of changing plugs every 60k or so... or the 6 quart oil changes . The opposed 6 cyl is probably the most perfectly balanced motor design. I love it. r/PK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgambino Posted April 15, 2009 Author Share Posted April 15, 2009 CNY Dave Great pics! THat motor looks like new ok...so the chain should last the life odf the motor...but not the water pump How often for that and how tough is it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_Dave Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 CNY DaveGreat pics! THat motor looks like new ok...so the chain should last the life odf the motor...but not the water pump How often for that and how tough is it??? The pics are from an outfit that built up an H6, think it was a later 3.0R (but the pics are pretty much the same). The waterpump is supposed to be good for the life of the car as well, so coolant maintenance is important. Old coolant = crappy seals = leaky waterpump The waterpump job is almost exactly the same as the chain/tensioner job, so I'd figure going in to touch anything and you'd do all 3. In those pics the crank is the gear on top in the middle, the waterpump is the round thing with the 4 bolts, on the bottom a little to the right. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manarius Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Yeah, the biggest problem with the H6 is lack of room in the engine compartment to work. Otherwise, doing the work is just as easy as the H4. (Granted, you're talking about the EZ30, but the EG33 is just the same way). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgambino Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 well...the reason I asked is I have a lead on an LLBean wagon 03 for $4500...good shape but 140K I really wanted something at about 100K..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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