Yo'J Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 So, I think I need to source a tranny to crack and put in new splines. I think modding the axles will be about the same price after sourcing parts, maybe more to crack the tranny, but not that much over the long term. I have a 200kmile 5 spd d/r to pull the splines out of or the working 137k d/r4spd if I so chose. My question is what has to happen to the ea shafts to get them to fit the awd tranny? I figure I can get the parts ready to drop off at a shop. Any other tranny mod suggestions while the case is open? Any PNW shop suggestions? As soon as my brat drives on its own power I can pull this ej its blocking and I get to work! Rguyver......I'm jealous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast I Drive Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 If you are sticking with 4 lug hubs, and changing the diff stubs, you dont have to do anything to the axles. As long as you are swapping 23 spline stubs into the tranny, they will go right back in like stock. If you are going 5 lug then its a whole nother story. -Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo'J Posted June 15, 2009 Author Share Posted June 15, 2009 (edited) 4 lug, I might redrill for 6....someday. I'll keep the jackman rims I got for now. I wanna figure out what happens to the tranny shafts to make them fit. "Just like stock"?.... they just pop in? All ea trannies or is there a model to look for? Say I found a.......FREE __?__....and kept my parts. I also wonder how the linkage fits in the tunnel. On the 5spd conversion on my 82 wagon, Brian (I cant remember his companies name)welded the stock shifter to the tranny linkage, it works but not bolt on for sure. Has anyone done this to a brat who might know the driveshaft length? ShawnW? You mentioned you did it, but not to what vehicle. Is there anything I'm missing? If doing the ej swap should the wiring be considered? For example I swap in the 22 keeping the stock tranny and wait on the awd then later completeing the swap or should it just happen together for ease of the wiring job. Will my lego auto donor car have the right wiring for a manual? I'm guessing it will. Its a 90 2wd auto. Could that restrict my transmission options? I'm sure thats redundant but I'm hoping it wont restrict me to 90-92. Edited June 16, 2009 by Yo'J wiring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibs Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Which 5 speed are you going to use? A 5 speed from any ea82 car will bolt in (minus the tranny x-member) without having to get custom axles. If you are going to swap in a legacy AWD tranny, then I think you have to get custom axles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo'J Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 Hi jibs, I want a ej 5speed to crack and replace the stubs on, no d/r bs. If it can, it will. The ea 5speeds are cool and all but I think it would make a brat with the lsd rear and the AWD. My 4sp d/r is toast, I got the brat running today, I'm not happy, the tranny wont live a year of use (undisclosed sellers omission, came with extra tranny, didn't do math). I gotsta' mak'a decision!!!! Everything costs munny:banghead:! I know this thing wont pass emissions, the cat sounds like its gotta socket in it for cristobals sake! If its gotta be replaced, along with the grease sodden, untunable, carb and manifoId, might as well go the whole way, I cant weber it in seattle without good cats and pass. I'm sitting on an ej swap in parts (gotta Save the Cats!), minus the welder and the ej AWD tranny, (he is my neighbor, I don't sit on him.) for the AWD tranny brackets. No time, no space. What to do? I was gonna ej my 82 wagon but it doesn't have to pass emissions and the brat motor is better. I haven't done the compression yet on the brat, but I'm 100 psi in my cyl#1 in my wagon and nothing goes above 140 no matter what I do. 225k on the clock. So if I have to get a new tranny, wiring, driveshaft, (and axles its a subaru!) tires and what ever else, It seems to me to do the right thing and AWD my soon to be EJed BRAT! I can still drive the 82 wagon, I cant drive the brat like a dd without a good engine management system. I love you guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4x4_Welder Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Aren't the EJ AWD trans stubs the same as the EA turbo ones? Couldn't you just get a set of axles for a turbo brat, and be set? Or would you have to build a set with EA82T inners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo'J Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 I believe the shafts are larger on the EJ ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast I Drive Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 All you have to do to put an EJ trans in a Brat (providied you are not also going to 5 lug) is split the trans case and swap in 23 spline stubs. The front diff in the EA box and EJ box is reportedly the same, and while you have it open you might as well throw an LSD in there (they are available). Then modify the crossmember, drop the trans in, and slide the axles on just like stock. -Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo'J Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 Yay! It looks like that is the next swap on the list! The tranny in my brat (I hope) will last till I ej my wagon, dump my current donor and source the next donor 'with' a transmission! I figure I had better stick with the game plan of ej-ing the wagon as its a once totalled vehicle, I can, at the very least, get good practise doing a swap before I do some dumb move on a beautiful brat with a straight body and very little rust. I couldn't believe my eyes when I got my emissions report back. It said I passed! And very well thank you! It still sounds like I got a socket in the tail pipe when revved, (should have seen the emission guys face:eek:) but she be legal! So, along with the front LSD, there is the rear, is it the same part#? I havent found the link to the rear diff swap out page yet, does anyone have the link for the conversion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast I Drive Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Front and rear diffs are very different, the rear diff is an R-160 Nissan unit, while the front diff is a Subaru piece. a rear LSD unit will not fit in a front diff, and a front LSD will not fit in the rear. Actually the fronts you can buy brand new for around $400, and you can get either Viscous or clutch type units. As for the rear, find someone parting out an RX if you want clutch type, or find a Turbo Legacy or some other EJ series car with the Viscous unit. -Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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