ezapar Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Started one for ya bro. Just to let you konw how not capable your car is just yet, even with big tires. . . Do you own tire ramps? Take them and place one in front of your passenger rear tire. Place the other in front of your driver's front tire. Now try to slowly drive up on them and tell me what happens next. The terrain at EC is not level and flat. It is very hilly, with LOTS of off camber stuff. Meaning, one of your tires will be off the ground often. Meaning that only one of your tires contacting the ground will actually be spinning. Which means you ain't moving. Welded diff for the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in Bellingham Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I know its a long drive but if you stop by my place with your diff in hand rear cover off drained of oil I will weld it free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 (edited) kinda like this. I was able to do this with an LSD and a hill (you can't really tell, but the slab is not level.....not really even close). ] Edited July 29, 2009 by Zap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I will reiterate that a non-lifted Subaru will not make the entrance to 311 under it's own power. Welded or not. Feel free to prove me wrong though. I will have a lawnchair and a few barley pops to watch the event! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamCF Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Seen enough pics of EC to know that unless you want to reach speeds that leave nothing attached under your Soob in order to make it over stuff...... Weld it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STI_Wolf Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I'm sure he discovered that up in ferndale today Yeah, I really am convinced to weld that thing up! Only took one full tank of gas to get to Bellingham and back this weekend, so getting up there isn't as bad as I thought. (400 miles on a tank baby!) Things I need to do now are: Weld the diff. Lift it Fix the exaust, it's really bad Hopefully I can get all that done next time I'm up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one eye Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 You can see there is no flexing for me, but it's welded!!!! Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayare12 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 what does it entail to get the diff welded? Sorry for dumb question but I'm new and looking for advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcap Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 what does it entail to get the diff welded? Sorry for dumb question but I'm new and looking for advice. Burn a bunch of arc-sticks (or mig wire) into the spider gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayare12 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 thanks I thought thats what you ment but wanted to make sure. would that be ok oh a street runner as well or do you do that to a strictly off roader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 thanks I thought thats what you ment but wanted to make sure. would that be ok oh a street runner as well or do you do that to a strictly off roader Definitely not recommended for a street only car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugs Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Srictly offroad. In fact you will want to have one fo the rear axles pulled out if running on the street. You will scrub tires like crazy and have all sorts of binding issues, from what I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamCF Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 (edited) Yeah when I was running my welded rear I couldn't remove the axles (diff is offset in my car so one does not come out without dropping the diff, and the other has been beat to death and will not come off the axlestub) So I was always running on the street with the axles in. Wore tires out like crazy and such. And I only drive it on the street to get to the trails. My new A/T tires will not see a welded rear on pavement. I can not afford to feed it tires and the fact I don't really need the welded rear for the types of runs I do now (I need reliability) prompted me to go back to open. (I'm the oddball, I've ran both, prefer open) I'll put the welded rear back in if I can get the axle with room to let go. It'll let me not have to think so hard about line choice. Currently soaking the pin hole in an acetone/ATF mix. ( http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?p=844289#post844289 ) Still welded is the way to go if you do the harder stuff on a regular basis. (TSF is closed right now so we have no hard trails down here...) Edited July 30, 2009 by TeamCF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3eyedwagon Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Srictly offroad. In fact you will want to have one fo the rear axles pulled out if running on the street. You will scrub tires like crazy and have all sorts of binding issues, from what I understand. That's a nice qualifier. You can run a welded diff on the pavement, just like the numerous people on here who actually have, and can speak from experience rather than from what they've heard. It won't wear your tires out that much more quickly, unless you have some gummy Intercos (which are going to wear out in a hurry on the street anyways). You just have to realize that it is going to drive a little differently, and play to it's strengths, and weaknesses. There will be no more cranking it into tight parking spots at the grocery store without alot of binding, and a bit of tire wear. Get used to it. And if you have extended periods where you don't plan on wheeling; it'd be worth the 15 minutes to pull an axle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezapar Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 I'll put the welded rear back in if I can get the axle with room to let go. It'll let me not have to think so hard about line choice. Have you tried letting the bottom of the shock go? Just separate it from the trailing arm. The arm will ddrop more, giving more room to undo the axle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamCF Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Have you tried letting the bottom of the shock go? Just separate it from the trailing arm. The arm will ddrop more, giving more room to undo the axle. Yeah that was the next step I was thinking. Just been waiting for parts before I do another round on the Soob. (been lazy and just letting it sit on it's jackstands with the heat and all) If the other axle comes free then I may decide to throw the welded diff back in anyway and just drop the whole thing. If not I'll drop the arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STI_Wolf Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 :banana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamCF Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 :banana: I take it you're locked and ready to rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STI_Wolf Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I take it you're locked and ready to rock. Not yet, but I'm getting exited! making arrangements to get it done next weekend. That and lift it a bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugaru Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 A few other welded diff things, Anti-seize the crap outta the inner and outer stub/DOJ splines, I've never had one get stuck, even after sitting for over a year when water was all in it. Carry an extra axle assembly because you're more likely to bust a DOJ with a welded diff, and don't forget to carry a few extra roll pins. But most of all push it to see how far you can take it, GD and I did some comparisons when I was still running an open diff, there is no comparison. If you can weld it, do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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