Zekeuyasha Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) Hey USMB, I crashed my beloved '90 loyale wagon. Took the back end of a lifted pickup to the face, so that punctured my radiator (and my R12 AC condensor ) crumpled my hood and shattered my driver side headlamp. I had to get the car towed, but the next morning I started it (didn't realize the ignition coil popped out) and the belts are smoking, cleared the radiator away from the belts, still smoking but it runs. limped it back into the driveway (bent my shifter linkage too, P is now R...) And there it sits. So there's a loyale in the junkyard not far from me, perfect condition except a blown motor. its got a FWD 5MT setup. I have a FWD 3AT. So my question is: Will the radiator off the MT work on my AT? I know the AT has tranny oil lines to the radiator, not sure if they used two different radiators. I figure that the MT would just have the oil cooler lines stuffed or something. Tell me they're interchangeable! I'm on a tight budget and the more parts I can get from that yard the better... Also, the fan clutch shroud uses 10mm bolts right? Can I run the car without the fan on the waterpump? Pics coming soon >.> Edited October 25, 2012 by Zekeuyasha uploaded picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 No way to know whether the radiator in that car has a trans cooler or not without looking at it. If it is the original rad, it likely doesn't. But aftermarket radiators usually have the cooler and lines there, but just cap them off, so if it's been replaced, it probably does. New radiators are not terribly expensive. You can get an all metal one shipped to your door for $150: https://shop.performanceradiator.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=1_32557_32785_32790_32791&product_id=10879 I've used that rad on 2 cars, I'm VERY happy with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekeuyasha Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) Thanks for the quick reply, Numbchux. I'm headed down to the yard later this afternoon to check for the lines on that loyale. I'm taking the body parts off of it at least (I just need to see if I can fit a hood in the back of my borrowed 2001 Ford Windstar T.T ) Since you brought up the issue of materials, what is your opinion of plastic tank rads? AutoZone is selling them for $100. Can my car run without a fan clutch safely? Edited October 25, 2012 by Zekeuyasha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djellum Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 overheating is one of the achilles heals so don't tempt it. electric fan or clutch, if yours is broken just take whatever is on the donor car. they make separate trans coolers so you don't have to have one built in. don't think it will be cost effective, but if you can score one cheap it might work. I dont think plastic is a good option. it doesn't dissipate heat like metal does and is not as easily repairable. for a very little cost difference I would go with metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 they make separate trans coolers so you don't have to have one built in. don't think it will be cost effective, but if you can score one cheap it might work. Common misconception. But the truth is that those trans coolers should always be used in addition to one built into the radiator. ATF operates hotter than engine coolant, and the heat transfer is much more effective from one fluid to another than with air. The 3AT is already a fairly fragile trans, don't cheap out on the cooling system, only to fry the trans. IMO, plastic end tanks are fine, as all metal ones are not always available. It's interesting you should bring that up, I work at AutoZone, and when I looked it up today, there's both the '85-'89 style rad (upturned lower port), and the '90-'94 one (straight out lower port) listed. Either can be used, but you will need the lower hose to match. The plastic-tank version you mention, is a spectra. Good part, I have one in my Celica. For that price, I probably wouldn't bother with the all-metal one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekeuyasha Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 I've bought that Spectra rad earlier today, it should be at my store by Friday. I'm probably not going to get an additional transmission cooler, seeing as the tranny's held up fine over the past 22 years without one. But I will spend the extra time yanking the clutch fan off the donor car. Sure beats paying $130+ for a new one...Why are they so expensive? Repair updates: I've pulled the rad mounts out a little more, I hope to be able to save it, but if not I'll cut a piece from the donor car. Even if I keep the mangled one you'll only see it when the hood is open Got the condenser for the AC out, that took the brunt of the damage, the actual radiator behind it wasn't nearly as bad. But it did puncture and spray coolant all over the underside and leak out tranny fluid... I don't think the link to the photo is working so I'll post the link without IMG handles http://imgur.com/JruDa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferp420 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I know you already got your radiator but I got it all copper radiator of the eBay for 80 bucks works great cheap and I can fix on the trail If I have to ditch the fan clutch and snag the electric fan off of the junker and take a Load off if the motor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l75eya Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Just for your information, our Loyale took a similar hit in the front, punctured the radiator, bent the supports, etc. We ran the car for a week with no fans (clutch or electric) with no problems really. If sitting in traffic for a bit or at a very long stop-light, the temp would creep up but never enough to cause concern and I'm sure if I had to throw the heat on to lower it, that would have done the trick. This isn't to say you should throw caution to the wind and drive your car with no fans. I'm just saying in a pinch you can do it for a bit and it should be alright. Get yourself an electric fan on ebay if your fans got broken. And keep an eye on your temp gauge in the mean-time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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